Hi,

I was able to get knoppmyth more or less working out of the box. I have an athlon 1.8 with an MSI motherboard, voodo3 card and pvr-350. Couldn't get the hauppauge grey remote working with mythtv although irw shows all is well. Could get color bars and sound on the tv-out of the pvr-350, but couldn't get actual video. Other than that it works fine.

So I thought 'what the heck I'll upgrade to 0.13'. Being new to debian I read the APT HOWTO and set to work adding the link http://dijkstra.csh.rit.edu/~mdz/debian ... le/mythtv/ to my sources.list. etc. and running apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. Nothing can be so easy though. First it wanted to upgrade a mess of packages, which seemed like half the OS. Finally I managed to get it to the point where it at least tries to upgrade mythtv, but I get this message:

Unpacking mythtv-common (from .../mythtv-common_0.13-4_all.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mythtv-common_0.13-4_all.deb (--unpack):
trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mythtv/mysql.txt', which is also in package mythtv-i686
Errors were encountered while processing:
/var/cache/apt/archives/mythtv-common_0.13-4_all.deb
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

What's going on here? Is there any way to reconcile the differences between the 0.12 packages that came with R4 and the 0.13 packages I'm trying to install?

well knoppmyth does not use the standard debian mythtv packages, so that is the problem you are having. If you really want o.13 you can force it to overwrite the 0.12 stuff, but It's likely to make things worse. You can do that with dpkg -i --force-overwrite packagename. the package for myth 0.13 should be sitting in /var/cache/apt/archive I think that's the right path it's from memory.

As for why the remote would not work with your pvr350, you probably did not run the install-i686-l script.

As for the tvout of the pvr350 I can't help you there, as I don't have one and can't afford one.

Here's the howto I wrote on the topic. Cesman actually helped me through this... but he said that this procedure isn't general. If it helps you, here's what I did:

Configure R4 fully and get it working. Then do the following:

dpkg -r myth<tab> until all are gone

$ export QTDIR=/usr/share/qt
$ export PATH=$PATH:$QTDIR/bin

$ tar -xjf mythtv-0.13.tar.bz2
$ cd mythtv-0.13
$ ./configure
$ qmake mythtv.pro
$ make

switch to superuser

$ su
# make install
# exit

install-i686
install-i686-l
mythtv-setup

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thanks graysky! I'm following your steps and seem to be well on my way. I appreciate these step-by-step instructions that much more after the last 24 hours of wheel-spinning with apt-get, dpkg, etc!

[quote="graysky"]Here's the howto I wrote on the topic. Cesman actually helped me through this... but he said that this procedure isn't general. If it helps you, here's what I did:

Hmm, the build didn't work out. Some business about various QT-related defs. Probably because of my 24 hours apt-get butchery probably messed up some Qt stuff. I'll revert back to plain R4 straight from the CD and try again.

By the way has anyone here had any success with the 'nvtv' package and getting the S-video out of a voodoo3 card working?

ALso, is it possible to have the PVR-350 card as the default video output for the machine, in other words to have no other graphics card, just the PVR-350 output to TV? My machine squawked and refused to boot when taking out the voodoo3 card.

well first nvtv is for tv out on nvidia cards up to the gforce3 it has nothing to do with vodoo cards.

second on some motherboards you cannot boot without a video card, but you could use the tvout on the pvr350 as your only output and just leave the vid card in the system. If you do this from my understanding you don't see any console stuff it just doesn't display anything till X comes up, but I've never actually used one of these cards.

please let us know how it works from a working install of R4, david. I did get some compile errors, but they did not affect anything downstream that I can tell. (As I recall, cesman told me some of the errors won't hurt anything).

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That should be QTDIR, right?

Yes. You could of course remove the 0.12 debs and apt-get Matt's 0.13 debs.

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cesman

When the source is open, the possibilities are endless!

Sorry about that type-o. Corrected it. Please let us know if it worked for you (worked for me)

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I'm afraid to try it.

My box is in production, and if I screw it up my wife may demand the Tivo back. Can't let that happen, so I'll probably wait until a simpler upgrade path to 13 comes along.

Hahaha... I totally understand your situation. How does she like it compared to a tvio? Did you know about the tvio module?

http://tivo-mplayer.sourceforge.net/mythtivo.html

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When it's running well, she's OK with it. When it goofs up on her, she hates it.

There's some key press combination on the remote she does that can crash the frontend. I have had to ssh in a few times from work and restart it. I keep telling her there's a software upgrade that will fix some of the bugs.

She likes that I have built up a library of our movies for mythvideo.

I haven't modded the tivo so it isn't on the network. It's in a spare room still recording everything as backup. I hope to be able to sell it on ebay soon to get a little money towards a front end machine for the bedroom.

Okay, I am now at 0.13. I just dkpg -r'ed all the .12 pkgs and apt-get installed the .13 ones. Thanks for the suggestion.

I am still having difficulties with tv-out with the pvr350. color bar test works fine, dd'ing a file to /dev/video16 works superbly, but when the x server is on tv-out, video is slow without pvr-350 disabled in the mythtv playback settings, and I get a blank screen when it is enabled.


What is the most pain-free way to install new ivtv modules and kernel? Although many sing the praises of apt-get and friends, I am still somewhat leery that it will leave my system in an inconsistent state if I do something wrong.

well I don't know what the easiest way to get updated ivtv drivers is, but you can rest assured it won't involve apt-get since there are no .debs of the ivtv stuff it's too new and in too rapid of development cycle.