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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:56 pm 
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Hi,

I was trying to get my RRD graphs working by following
http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page ... raphsHowto
down where it says "KnoppMyth R5E50 Notes"
But I am getting the following errors -

Code:
root@mythtv:# /usr/local/bin/rrd_mbtemp.pl
No Hardware Monitor found!!
InitMBInfo: Success
Motherboard temp:  degrees C
No Hardware Monitor found!!
InitMBInfo: Success
CPU temp:  degrees C
No Hardware Monitor found!!
InitMBInfo: Success
Case ambient temp:  degrees C


I didn't see any troubleshooting resources on that page. Can anyone point me to where I can figure out how to get this working?

Thanks.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 7:57 pm 
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It says in your output no hardware monitor found

somewhere around the forum or on the Knoppmythwiki I saw posted a command line to check mbmon functionality against your system

On my Gigabyte MB it uses a VIA 686 chip for output.
You can type
Code:
# mbmon -d


and it should give you an output something like this:
Code:
Using VIA686 HWM directly!!
* VIA Chip VT82C686A/B found.


Just typing mbmon should give you some kind of output.

Code:
# mbmon

Temp.= 49.5, 35.0, 24.2; Rot.= 2481,    0,    0
Vcore = 1.67, 2.56; Volt. = 3.32, 4.91, 11.83,   0.00,  0.00
is an example.

Hope that helps.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 10:23 pm 
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I get
Code:
# mbmon -d
SMBus[VT8233/A/8235/8237(KT266/333/400/600/880)] found, but No HWM available on it!!
No Hardware Monitor found!!
InitMBInfo: Success

I bought it in 2002, and you can see some of the info in the BIOS, so I think it has a hardware monitor. I disabled a bunch of things in the BIOS I wasn't using, like the serial ports. Maybe I need to go through and reenable everything to see if it communicates across something I turned off.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:12 am 
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There are a couple of pretty good how to's over at the wiki.

Here is one with some references to the documentation.

http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=MonitorMotherboardHowTo

2002 doesn't seem like to old of a motherboard. I am thinking at least one of my boards is about that age. It supports mbmon very well.

anyway I think there is a reference there for getting to specific motherboard info and configurations.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 10:34 pm 
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Ok, so I was following the directions linked off the page pointed to
http://www.nt.phys.kyushu-u.ac.jp/shimi ... on205.html
And I tried
Code:
#mbmon -d -A
SMBus[VT8233/A/8235/8237(KT266/333/400/600/880)] found, but No HWM available on it!!
Summary of Detection:
 * No monitors found.
InitMBInfo: Success
This program needs "setuid root"!!

So I searched setuid root, and I get that it is possibly saying this needs I/O access and my kernel security settings are too high to allow. I didn't understand what a lot of the websites were saying to do, but it seemed like one of them said I could
Code:
#chown root:root mbmon
#chmod 4511 mbmon

Is this possibly reasonable, and safe to do?
Thanks.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 8:35 am 
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Possible yes, maybe even reasonable, but certainly not necessary or likely to help.

You're already running the program as root and it's not working. The mbmon utility simply doesn't work with all motherboards and northbridge/southbridge chipsets. You may want to look into lm_sensors, which may work better with your motherboard. There is (or used to be) a how to for it on the wiki.

http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=MotherBoardsThatWorkWithXmbmon
http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=MotherBoardsThatDonotWorkWithXmbmon

http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=LmSensorsHowTo


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:15 pm 
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I am going to try the lm-sensors method, but I have only untared a file twice and I have never done any building. So I am not really comfortable about how this goes.

http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=LmSensorsHowTo

Based on how windows works, it would seem they are saying to download and untar sysfsutils and lm-sensors in the root of the drive? Fair enough, but based on what is already in the root, it doesn't seem like the appropriate place.

Then it is saying to cd into the respective subdirectories, but currently I have directories for these much deeper in the tree in places it doesn't make sense to have them. So does untaring the files create new directories, or is that a missing step?

I searched around on the net a little bit, but I don't really know the right question to ask google to figure this stuff out. After that, I don't see anything obvious I don't understand.

Thanks.

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