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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:38 am 
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I've been fighting with this card for a couple of days. I've searched the forum and tried every combination I could possably find, However all I still recieve when attempting to watch liveTV is static with green. I've found simular issues, but no real resolutions. According to the pamphlet my card should be 37, I've tried 70, 72 etc. Also tried several different tuner settings, all with no results. This is a US based card and I have Comcast cable, I've tested the cable line and I have signal (as when I put the card in my windowz box I can view tv)

Basically I'm trying to see if anyone else has this card here in the US and has figured out what tuner it has on it.

Oh, I've also double, tripple, etc, cheched my mythsetup settings as well, using ntsc us_cable etc.

For right now I'm just looking to get this system, which will probably end up being backend and I'll set up a frontend later, but for now this one needs to do it all (and if I can get the video out of the ATI card working without much hassle, it may remain the only box.) Any assistance is appriciated

Specs:
Athlon 1.6ghz
512 Mb ram
80 GB IDE HDD
Pixelview PlayTV Pro (PV-BT878P+) rev. 10a
ATI video card (I, know, I know, but it's what I have for now)
Ensoniq 5880 sound card.


Now for the tech bits:

lspci -v (as root) output:
Quote:
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-760 [IGD4-1P] System Controller (rev 13)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
Memory at d4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
Memory at d9001000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
I/O ports at d000 [disabled] [size=4]
Capabilities: [a0] AGP version 2.0

0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] AMD-760 [IGD4-1P] AGP Bridge (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
Flags: bus master, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32
Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32
I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff
Memory behind bridge: d6000000-d7ffffff
Prefetchable memory behind bridge: d0000000-d3ffffff

0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super South] (rev 40)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686/A PCI to ISA Bridge
Flags: bus master, stepping, medium devsel, latency 0
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32
I/O ports at d400 [size=16]
Capabilities: [c0] Power Management version 2

0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 1a) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

0000:00:07.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 1a) (prog-if 00 [UHCI])
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
I/O ports at dc00 [size=32]
Capabilities: [80] Power Management version 2

0000:00:07.4 SMBus: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI] (rev 40)
Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C686 [Apollo Super ACPI]
Flags: medium devsel
Capabilities: [68] Power Management version 2

0000:00:09.0 Ethernet controller: National Semiconductor Corporation DP83815 (MacPhyter) Ethernet Controller
Subsystem: Netgear: Unknown device f312
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11
I/O ports at e000 [size=256]
Memory at d9000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
Expansion ROM at 30000000 [disabled] [size=64K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 2

0000:00:0a.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
Subsystem: Ensoniq Sound Blaster 16PCI 4.1ch
Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 32, IRQ 9
I/O ports at e400 [size=64]
Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1

0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
Memory at d9002000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2

0000:00:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 5
Memory at d9003000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=4K]
Capabilities: [44] Vital Product Data
Capabilities: [4c] Power Management version 2

0000:01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R100 QD [Radeon 7200] (prog-if 00 [VGA])
Subsystem: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 0538
Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10
Memory at d0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
I/O ports at c000 [size=256]
Memory at d7000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]
Expansion ROM at d6000000 [disabled] [size=128K]
Capabilities: [58] AGP version 2.0
Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2


dmesg |grep tuner Output:
Quote:
bttv0: using tuner=-1


dmesg |grep bttv Output:
Quote:
bttv: driver version 0.9.16 loaded
bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each for capture
bttv: Bt8xx card found (0).
bttv0: Bt878 (rev 17) at 0000:00:0b.0, irq: 5, latency: 32, mmio: 0xd9002000
bttv0: using: *** UNKNOWN/GENERIC *** [card=0,autodetected]
bttv0: gpio: en=00000000, out=00000000 in=002fffff [init]
bttv0: using tuner=-1
bttv0: i2c: checking for MSP34xx @ 0x80... not found
bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9875 @ 0xb0... not found
bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA7432 @ 0x8a... not found
bttv0: i2c: checking for TDA9887 @ 0x86... not found
bttv0: registered device video0
bttv0: registered device vbi0


dmesg|grep tveeprom Output:
Quote:
tveeprom 0-0050: Huh, no eeprom present (err=-121)?


One note, I removed any of the attempted custom settings I had tried before I pulled these results.

Amos B.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:25 am 
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Hi,

There is a thread somewhere, maybe we can find it together as I want fire up my old KWorld bttv card also. There needs to be some settings in /etc/mythtv/modules/bttv There are two special numbers, one for the card and one for the tuner.
Goes something like
options tuner = 8 card = 78
Those are my numbers but I think there were a couple of other options needed also.

You mentioned the card but I didn't see anything for the tuner.
options tuner = ? card = 37

Maybe this is a push in the right direction...
Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 5:04 pm 
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mjl wrote:
Hi,

There is a thread somewhere, maybe we can find it together as I want fire up my old KWorld bttv card also. There needs to be some settings in /etc/mythtv/modules/bttv There are two special numbers, one for the card and one for the tuner.
Goes something like
options tuner = 8 card = 78
Those are my numbers but I think there were a couple of other options needed also.

You mentioned the card but I didn't see anything for the tuner.
options tuner = ? card = 37

Maybe this is a push in the right direction...
Mike


I'll keep searching.

I did find a thread by a couple of guys from Australia, but I'm pretty sure they have different tuners.

I guess I'm going to start just filling in the tuner option till I find one that works. Though with this particular hardware setup re-boots are a pain. When I tell the system to re-boot, it shuts down, but then goes into a sor of standby mode rather than re-booting, so I have to hit the re-set button to start it back up. (It's something weird with the motherboard, as this system used to be my boss's and he always had weird issues with it)

Oh, and in my searching I found that the location that we need to edit to put our card parameters in is: /etc/modprobe.conf

Amos
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 6:46 pm 
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Ok, I've got it. :D :D :D


Started doing some other research while I was attempting semi-random tuner settings. Found these two pages which helped me to narrow it down.

This one, is actually quite like the one at the end of the pamphlet:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BTTV/cards.html

This one actually cracked it open for me:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/BTTV/modprobe.html

The commands etc at the top of that page don't work, as myth locks the modules somehow, but the tuner information was crucial.

I took the card out and started examining it to try to find markings to help. Ended up finding somewhere (will post later once I shut the system down again) the name "temic" and elsewhere 4032fy5, which was listed on that page.

Anyway, I've now got video, and sound coming from the sound out of the tuner card. Gotta work on getting it out of the sound card instead (though I have some cords around here to manually jump it outside the case if need be)

One issue though, the words are coming out of their mouths before they actually move their lips. Gonna try a couple of more card options keeping in mind the one I have is working.

Oh, btw.. my settings:
Quote:
options bttv card=37 tuner=6


Amos
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:07 am 
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Ok, I screwed up my install (don't ask). Anyway, I upgraded to the latest (r5f1) and got my recordings and backend/frontend all set up.

Now for the bad news, I know what settings to provide for my card (as seen above), I just don't know where I put these settings in the latest version of knoppmyth to make my tuner actually tune. I'm back to getting the static with green mixed in.

Can anyone give me a hint on where I need to put these settings to get the system back.

(I'm hoping to replace the entire system with one that has an HD card in it, but at the moment the budget just doesn't contain that, so for now I need to continue to use this card and record SD tv as long as I can and the standard is still available.)

Amos
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Have you tried /etc/mythtv/modules/bttv or maybe /etc/mythtv/modules/bttv0? The other place to try is /etc/modules.conf

Yet another possibility is that you need to add it to the bttv file above and add an include in /etc/modprobe.d/KnoppMyth
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:01 am 
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Thanks for the info. I had tried one or two of those locations, don't know if my syntax was wrong or what.

However this weekend I was talking with a friend, and he had a tuner card he wasn't using that he gave me. KM recognized it and is up and running, mostly...

Anyway, after my upgrade, I can't seem to be able to watch any videos for more than 5 minutes before the system locks up solid.

I'm leaning toward it being related to the backend crash issues that appear to be a known issue with this, and the system just locks up and I can't do anything if I"m in the middle of viewing a vid. (however this is all for another thread if the fix that is posted doesnt fix the lock ups.

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