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PostPosted: Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:57 pm 
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I am trying to add a HD-5000 to a box that I just upgraded to R5B7. I have a PVR-150 installed that is working.

After adding the HD-5000, I stopped the backend and ran mythtv-setup.
In the Capture cards menu, I select New capture card.
I then select DVB DTV capture card. Then nomatter what DVB Card Number I select, the message Could not open card #1! appears next to the Frontend ID:.

From this I assume I nolonger use DVB for HD-5000 or 3000 cards.

So I try setting pcHDTV DTV capture card.
I select /dev/video24 as the device and Tuner 0 as the input.

I create a video source named antenna and download the lineup from zap2it. My frequency table is set to us-bcast.

I assing antenna to HDTV /dev/video24 (Tuner0) in the input connections screen.

All my channels show up in the channel editor.

I go into the channel scanner menu, select antenna as my video source and /dev/video24 as my capture card.
Scan Type Full Scan.
Frequency Table: Broadcast
ATSC Modulation: Tereestrial
Channel Seperator: Underscore
Existing Channel Treatment: Minimal Updates.

Most channels scan comes back with no signal. The ones that do have a signal, show a 99% signal strength, but report no tables. The signal to noise never changes from 0.

After scanning in all the channels, I esc out of myth-setup, start the back end and watch tv. I can still see all my PVR-150 channels, but the digital channels show 0% signal, and No Lock. I also get a message telling me that I should have gotten a channel lock by now.


I'm going to try deleteing all my cards and starting from scratch, but I don't think that is going to fix it.

Any ideas?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:24 am 
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you know what you do when you assume. dvb is still used for hdtv3000 and the airstar5000 cards. If you did not get setup running automatically when you started knoppmyth after you added the card something is wrong. maybe try another pci slot or something. check for irq conflicts.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:56 am 
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Thanks.

I pulled the 150 and put the HD-5000 in the slot the 150 came from. The HD-5000 now shows up as an LG tuner in the Card configuration.

When I scan channels, it is the opposite of what happened before. The signal to noise ratio is at 100% and the signal strength is at 0.

It seems to pick up the same channels, but this time, durin the scan, the system hangs.

When watching TV, none of the channels tune. All say something like Signal 0% | S/N 4.8db.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 1:54 am 
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I found that I had Plug and Play OS turned off in the BIOS. I'm back in my original config and all cards are tuning stations.

This is my first HD card, and 2.4 Ghz is not cutting it.

Where did the xvmc controls go? I don't see it anymore in the tv playback settings.

Thanks for your help.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 2:19 am 
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Never mind. Xvmc control is now on the first page of tv playback settings.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:05 pm 
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hey mschlott i'm having the SAME problem!
I tried swaping my PVR-150 and HD-2000 and that didn't fix it...
I have Plug & Play OS turned on in my BIOS so that's not it.
Did you say that you took out your PVR-150 and didn't put it back in so you only have your HD-5000 card installed? I pulled out my PVR-150 and that didn't fix the problem...
Is my HD-2000 suppost to show up in "pcHDTV DTV capture card" or "DVB DTV capture card"? It shows up in the pcHDTV section but not the DVB one. It used to show up in the DVB section with the R5A30 and work.
Thanks! :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:34 am 
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I have both the PVR-150 and HD-5000 installed now. I had to play with different combinations of cards in slots. The HD-5000 will show up as a dvb card. Mine showed up as and HD card as well.

Pull out as many PCI cards as you can and just put the HD-5000 in and make sure it works in the slot that it is in. Then add the PVR-150, and make sure they both still work. If they dont work, try moving the HD-5000 to different slots untill it does work. It you can never get both working, Try the PVR-150 in each slot while moving the HD-5000 to each other slot. Just process of elimination. Once both cards work to together, add your other PCI cards back in.

Search for other posts by me around this time. Another person responded and said something about having either the PVR-150 or HD-5000 in PCI slot 0. I can't remember which.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:17 pm 
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I pulled out my PVR-150 (the only other PCI card) and tried the HD-2000 in every slot and it still only shows up as a pcHDTV card! DVB continues to say no such device...
Do you think this is a problem with mythtv or is this a knoppmyth configuration issue that can be easy to fix?

P.S. No offense but your solution doesn't make any sence, a PCI slot is a PCI slot... :?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 6:30 pm 
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WattoToydarian wrote:
a PCI slot is a PCI slot... :?

Not quite. There are multiple versions of "normal" PCI (versus PCIe) right up to 2.2. There are motherboards that have "special" communications PCI slots which have some priority tweaks. (See the orange one on the right in this photo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?image=13-130-484-01.jpg ) There are other differences.

For our purposes, the biggest difference is the order in which the cards are scanned as a result of their PCI address. This matters because it can influence the assignment of interupts, the detection and load order of modules, ... :idea:


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:07 pm 
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tjc wrote:
Not quite. There are multiple versions of "normal" PCI (versus PCIe) right up to 2.2. There are motherboards that have "special" communications PCI slots which have some priority tweaks. (See the orange one on the right in this photo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.asp?image=13-130-484-01.jpg ) There are other differences.

For our purposes, the biggest difference is the order in which the cards are scanned as a result of their PCI address. This matters because it can influence the assignment of interupts, the detection and load order of modules, ... :idea:

RightyO, I stand corrected. 8) But that still doesn't fix the problem... :(

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:28 pm 
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A hint on this... Run the lspci command and note the adresses in the left column. The order of the cards shown is generally the order that they'll be setup in, and that the necessary modules will get loaded in. If something causes the bttv modules to be loaded before the ivtv modules, you can have problems with ivtv.

My HD-3000 used to do this, and then the PVR cards never initialized correctly. My solution at the time (before I decided that the OTA signal quality issues in my neighborhood were probably insurmountable, and that my cable provider was doing something nasty to the QAM freeview channels) was to force the ivtv modules to load first. This is harder now because of ivtv's dependancy on the hotplug firmware loader.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:35 pm 
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I think I may have lead you in the wrong direction. I have been troubleshooting a lot of problems in the last few days. There have been a lot of late nights and a lot of confusion.

I did the PCI slot swapping to solve a problem with my PVR-150 when it was installed with the HD-5000.

When my HD-5000 was not showing up in the DVB driver config, I think the only things I did was...
strip down the system to bare esentials,
turn on plug and play OS in the bios,
I might have reset the BIOS to failsafe defaults, but I'm not sure.

I'm in no means an expert, I can only tell you my experience.

mike

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:42 pm 
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I got it to work! :D For thoes of you who might be having this problem this is what I did:
I took out my PVR-150 and left the HD-2000 in the box. Then I reinstalled Knoppmyth. After the installation, I configured everything and the HD-2000 showed up as a DVB card. Then I powered down, installed the PVR-150 under the HD-2000 card, powered back up, and it worked!
Thanks for the help guys! :wink:

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