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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:24 am 
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Did you compile it from SVN? How did you preserve the knoppmyth customizations?

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Hauppauge PVR-150 in another PCI slot
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PVR is both frontend and backend


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:27 am 
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I just downloaded the officially released versions from http://www.mythtv.org

The tweaks that were introduced by KnoppMyth were lost. I'll try to get them back when I've got some spare time :). At least I think they are... I will know for sure in a 7 hours...

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KnoppMyth R5A30.1 upgraded to MythTV 0.19
P3-900 MHz
Asus CUV board (VIA Apollo 133A)
40 Gig HD
PVR-350
Optrex Display 160*128 T6963c

VMWare 4.5.1
KnoppMyth R5A30.2 upgraded to MythTV 0.19
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:23 am 
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I don't know exactly what's different in KnoppMyth and MythTV 0.19 but one thing I've found out, is that the menustructure has changed a bit.

The best way of getting the original menu of KnoppMyth back is the following as root:
mkdir /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/KnoppMythMenu
cp /usr/share/mythtv/*.xml /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/KnoppMythMenu
Now you can select KnoppMythMenu under : Setup/Apearence, first page, last field.

To get MythWeb running you have to copy the contents of the folder mythweb (in the extracted bz2) into /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb.
Go to the folder where the install files of the plugins are located as root.
cd mythweb
cp -R . /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb
cd /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb
chgrp -R www-data data
chmod g+rw data

vi .htaccess
uncomment the 4 lines that look like Auth* and Require
Change the parameter of :
AuthType into Basic
AutoName into "MythTV"
AuthUserFile into /etc/apache/basicauth
Require into valid-user
This is how it will look:
Quote:
AuthType Basic
AuthName "MythTV"
AuthUserFile /etc/apache/basicauth
Require valid-user


Then you should have a working (and protected) MythWeb

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KnoppMyth R5A30.1 upgraded to MythTV 0.19
P3-900 MHz
Asus CUV board (VIA Apollo 133A)
40 Gig HD
PVR-350
Optrex Display 160*128 T6963c

VMWare 4.5.1
KnoppMyth R5A30.2 upgraded to MythTV 0.19
IDE "virtual drive"


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:39 pm 
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Seriously, guys, cesman is working on it. He does have a "fulltime" job and a life, you know! If you can't give the testers a week to pound on it, then "have at it". :D


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:54 pm 
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Maybe its just me but I really don't understand the "rush" to upgrade to the lastest and greatest. Maybe its because I'm a linux noob and used to a Windoze world. I never updated any of my servers to anthing until its been out for awhile and patched (a new windows OS is a no no until at least SP3 and only if that SP actually works).

Knoppmyth has a fairly easy upgrade path (I'm a total linux noob and I did it), give the guys some time to pound on it a bit. Saves you from having to come on the boards and crying about why they released it so quickly if you run into bugs.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:52 pm 
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Nnyan wrote:
Maybe its just me but I really don't understand the "rush" to upgrade to the lastest and greatest. Maybe its because I'm a linux noob and used to a Windoze world. I never updated any of my servers to anthing until its been out for awhile and patched (a new windows OS is a no no until at least SP3 and only if that SP actually works).


The mythtv developers have already done all that to a reasonable extent, else they would have released it as "alpha" instead of "stable".

Plus, they have completely reworked mythweb and that would make it a lot more feature rich than earlier versions.

Plus, they have an OSD keyboard.

Plus, other devs will be upgrading third party addons for mythtv soon (like nuv2disc, mythburn etc) & it will presumably be default-compatible with the latest stable mythtv release.

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P-III 850 MHz
256 Mb RAM
Hauppauge PVR-350 connected to tv via tv-out
Hauppauge PVR-150 in another PCI slot
using ivtv version 0.8.2 in Knoppmyth R5E50
PVR is both frontend and backend


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 9:09 pm 
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Sorry if I came off as "OMG I WANT 0.19 NOW", I just was wonder is all...I may try my hand at upgrading myself, as I really need something to do :P No WoW=boring


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:51 am 
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I installed 0.19 allready, and must say there are a lot of things really improved!

- MythMusic now has the wonderfull feature Search.
- OSD Keyboard
- MythWeb improved very very very much.

But one of the most important things which I really wanted was Teletext on IVTV (PVR-350) but unfortunately that didn't made it in the release yet.

I'm now trying to patch and reinstall mythtv and hopefully it's working now...

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KnoppMyth R5A30.1 upgraded to MythTV 0.19
P3-900 MHz
Asus CUV board (VIA Apollo 133A)
40 Gig HD
PVR-350
Optrex Display 160*128 T6963c

VMWare 4.5.1
KnoppMyth R5A30.2 upgraded to MythTV 0.19
IDE "virtual drive"


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:55 am 
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hari_seldon99 wrote:
The mythtv developers have already done all that to a reasonable extent, else they would have released it as "alpha" instead of "stable".



:P :P :P :P :P :P
Hahahahahahahaha hooheehooheeheehee
OMG that was a good one! Whew, thanks for that laugh!
:P :P :P :P :P :P

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Liv2Cod wrote:
hari_seldon99 wrote:
The mythtv developers have already done all that to a reasonable extent, else they would have released it as "alpha" instead of "stable".



:P :P :P :P :P :P
Hahahahahahahaha hooheehooheeheehee
OMG that was a good one! Whew, thanks for that laugh!
:P :P :P :P :P :P


Care to elaborate for the rest of civilized humanity who didn't get the joke?

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My knoppmyth system:
P-III 850 MHz
256 Mb RAM
Hauppauge PVR-350 connected to tv via tv-out
Hauppauge PVR-150 in another PCI slot
using ivtv version 0.8.2 in Knoppmyth R5E50
PVR is both frontend and backend


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:44 pm 
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From the "old" days (0.17 "release"):

Isaac Richards wrote:
All a release is is a snapshot of cvs at the time of the release. Nothing more. I make no guarantees as to its stability. I certainly don't consider this particular issue to be a major bug or anything which would make me consider going back and spending several hours putting out a new release just to fix it.


Things have improved a bit since then. Some of the devs have committed to keeping a "stable" branch when a new version is released. But the "testing" that goes into a "release" is still mostly ad-hoc. Your comment and the innocent faith behind it made me chuckle. Sorry.

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Actually I thought it was pretty funny too... Darn near choked on my soda... ;-)


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hey .. i tried following your instructions for mythweb, but i had to do the following extra:

in /etc/apache/httpd.conf, change AllowOverride to All
in /etc/apache/modules.conf, add LoadModule env_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_env.so

Ep Woody wrote:
I don't know exactly what's different in KnoppMyth and MythTV 0.19 but one thing I've found out, is that the menustructure has changed a bit.

The best way of getting the original menu of KnoppMyth back is the following as root:
mkdir /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/KnoppMythMenu
cp /usr/share/mythtv/*.xml /usr/local/share/mythtv/themes/KnoppMythMenu
Now you can select KnoppMythMenu under : Setup/Apearence, first page, last field.

To get MythWeb running you have to copy the contents of the folder mythweb (in the extracted bz2) into /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb.
Go to the folder where the install files of the plugins are located as root.
cd mythweb
cp -R . /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb
cd /usr/share/mythtv/mythweb
chgrp -R www-data data
chmod g+rw data

vi .htaccess
uncomment the 4 lines that look like Auth* and Require
Change the parameter of :
AuthType into Basic
AutoName into "MythTV"
AuthUserFile into /etc/apache/basicauth
Require into valid-user
This is how it will look:
Quote:
AuthType Basic
AuthName "MythTV"
AuthUserFile /etc/apache/basicauth
Require valid-user


Then you should have a working (and protected) MythWeb


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:52 am 
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The "AllowOverride All" bit may have undone a lot of the security stuff you were trying to enable. :lol:


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tjc wrote:
The "AllowOverride All" bit may have undone a lot of the security stuff you were trying to enable. :lol:


What do you have in your /etc/apache/httpd.conf?

For some reason, http://192.168.1.100/mythweb gives me "Bad Request
Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand."

But http://192.168.1.100/mythweb/mythweb.php seems to be working fine ...


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