I'm sure you were correct. MCE is not a distro for one. He was almost certainly speaking of mythbuntu or mythdora. I've tried both of the latter, and indeed chose to stick with knoppmyth. Mythbuntu had no support for Australian EPG and didn't detect my TV cards unless I did a reboot (it attempted a channel scan anyway, though!).

Now for a short rant:
Personally, I know I'd never, ever be happy with anything except Linux. The OS vendor which may not be named (apparently!) has a history of being sneaky, sly, greedy and dishonest. If anyone wants to go there, good luck to them: They'll lose a lot more than part of their soul, and their media centre will never do what they want it to or will do with Knoppmyth.

Mike

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There are Other distros of mythtv?!? I think I heard about them. They have to run around trying to lop off each others heads until one is left victorious and claims "The Prize" -- the ability to record any cable channel.


Seriously, Mythdora is Fedora plus myth, Mythbuntu is Ubuntu plus myth. Both are desktop distros with Myth scabbed on. Both excellent in their own rights. I realize I'm making a subtle distinction here, but I contend KnoppMyth really is the only "myth-centered" distro, OK, maybe Minimyth, and iMedia, but they're a little too focused.

Mike,
Slashdot made the analogy of "Microsoft as Borg" cliche. I like your Lord Voldemort angle, but you forgot Power hungry, and coercive. I may have to start using that...

Some may think (incorrectly) that Knoppmyth is Knoppix with mythtv tacked on. Why should they think otherwise??

Sorry that my attribute list was so short: It was early in the morning .
Should've added criminal, virus-crippled, expensive etc. too.

Oh, and if you've read the last book, what happened to Voldemort at the peak of his power? Mwahahahahahaaa!!!!

Mike

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I gotta ask, how goes tracking down the



I run Ubuntu for my laptop and have MythFrontend on there. Stupid me let it update it to v0.21 without realizing I wouldn't be able to watch my wireless TV anymore.

So... I'm very eagerly awaiting KnoppMyth with MythTV 0.21 on it.

I really appreciate the work you're putting into this and if there's anything I can do to help (testing, hardware info, etc) let me know.

~~Douglas K

The First Law of Digital Entomology:

There is ALWAYS one more bug.

He got cocky, thought he knew everythign, turned out he didn't know everything.... fatal mistake.

You ruined it for me! I was waiting to "read" the movies!

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Wireless - Netgear wg311
Tuner Card - PVR-150

And lets not forget:

The First Rule of Knoppmyth testing is, you never talk about Knoppmyth testing.

The First Rule of the Knoppmyth Forums is, you never ask (ala nagging kids in the car, on a road trip) "are we there yet?"

The bug will be stomped ASAP, and the release will be made as soon as Cecil deems it ready for release.

We can all hop up and down like we have to pee, all we want, and continually check the website, but it ain't gonna make the release happen any sooner.

Patience Padawan! Patience

Fair 'nough... I've been around the linux and dev blocks long enough I shoulda known better.

My many thanks to all who make KnoppMyth reality.

~~Douglas

You know what would be really really cool?, an email to notify us of a new distro that was now available. Any way I can subscribe to the announcement forum?

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Sorry this is taking longer than I'd like. While I don't think the major bug will affect the majority of users, it is best to wait and stomp it.

The next release uses libata and what we are seeing, are those w/ nvidia based chipset motherboard with both PATA and SATA, the SATA drives are seen first. This means, if you first installed KnoppMyth to your PATA drive (/dev/hda (let's say)). With the new release, it is seen as /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sda.

In terms of my comment about other distros, it was just stated in jest. I've talked to a few folks in IRC that left KnoppMyth to try something else only to come back. In terms of a "MCE" from the monopoly in the northwestern part of the US. Well, I think I've said enough about that...

There is a addition to PHPBB for RSS, unfortunately everytime I upgrade PHPBB, I have to upgrade the module which is by hand.

In terms of people thinking KnoppMyth is Knoppix with MythTV. All I can say is those people are shortsighted. It takes only a few minutes to research and find out what KnoppMyth truly is... For most of our history now, KnoppMyth is no longer a remaster of Knoppix. I decided to keep KnoppMyth as the name as a tribune, in addition to the fact that we still use the Knoppix scripts. R6 however will change this...

.. can hardly wait, but speaking for myself, my gratitude for Knoppmyth infinitely outweighs my impatience for the next release. I've tried a number of distros but nothing else even came close to working as an appliance, a la knoppmyth. My wife and kids (and soon my siblings and their kids too, and probably my parents) depend on KM as something that 'just works'. There is no substitute for KM in this regard.

Not to get all preachy about it or anything but KM, in my opinion, is a very strong 'fact on the ground' that can serve as an introduction to and argument for FOSS to a type of audience that may otherwise never get exposed it, which is no small thing. Enough babbling from me, I just wanted to express my gratitude (and my family's!) for the update and all your labors...

John Bolan

Thanks for the update.

I run a frontend on Ubuntu which auto updated to MythFrontend 0.21... I didn't know it didn't work with 0.20.2... so I was out of TV on my laptop.

I've put Mythbuntu on the backend for now... and can barely wait for KnoppMyth to be released with 0.21! I'm sure Mythbuntu is great for some configurations... but it's not very stable on mine. KnoppMyth is awesomely stable.

So... in short, THANK YOU for the hard work... I have an Asus Motherboard with an NVidia chipset, so I heartily appreciate the bug squash. I've got an auto monitor to my cell phone when the announcements or home page is updated.

Cheers,
Douglas King

Ok this is becoming somewhat upsetting, everyday i get home from work and check for the new knoppmyth release.Only to be confronted with NO news. Is there any chance of some sort of rss news or auto e-mail as mentioned earlier:

I appreciate the hard work and understand that more time spent updating news means less time fixing but some sort of feed or e-mail update would mean less time spent responding to repetitive and possibly irritating post's.

On a side note I understand the delay and the need to iron out bug's but i have to wonder as my mythbox does not have SATA would this "major bug" even effect me?

First off - thanks for the great work you have done in creating this distro for mythtv it has made getting MythTV working so much easier. I have now built 4 myth boxes for family and friends and your distributions make MythTV incredibly easy to get going.

I assume you are still having trouble with the above issue, so I thought I would try to contribute an idea you may want to try (?) - which you have probably already dismissed as no good. So at the risk of being completely off the mark I thought I would mention my own experience with an nVidia chipset, a SATA HDD and SATA DVD-ROM drive. I found that with R5F27 (kernel 2.6.23.18CHW3 (?)) it would NOT install from the SATA DVD drive (as it did not recognise the drive), so I had to install from a spare IDE CDROM drive I had. Once it was installed it would not detect the SATA DVD drive on boot-up. After many hours of searching I decided to try compiling the latest Release Candidate for kernel 2.6.24 to see how that went and it worked a treat. I am pretty sure the problems were in the libata kernel "drivers" in the earlier kernel versions. I am not 100% sure which kernel version I ended up with, but I think it was 2.6.24 RC4.

I just checked kernel.org and 2.6.24.4 is now the latest stable kernel. Have you tried abandoning the 2.6.23 kernel and going for the latest 2.6.24.4 stable kernel. I am not sure what ramifications this would have on the rest of the knoppmyth distro, but I am sure it is way more complicated than I could imagine. Just thought it may be something you might want to consider if this isn't too radical a change.

On a side note, I also build the latest SVN checkout of MythTV on a semi-regular basis (probably once a month) to get various updates. I am guessing that this is going to make it extremely difficult for me to "upgrade" to the new knoppmyth release once you nail it down. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?


- cheers