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Author:  moby [ Tue Aug 16, 2005 12:48 am ]
Post subject:  Norwegian / European TV channels - freqencies
Hello, I'm a long time reader, first-time poster.
Just got a hauppauge 350 for my box, and have managed to install it but I have snow on every channel when watching live or recording.
Before you flame me for not doing my homework, here's what I wanna know:

This is probably due to channel info being incorrect, but how do I fix it?
is it to go through mythtv-setup and edit channels, and change the "frequency ID" bit to correct Frequency, for instance 137,5 or whatever..?
It seems to me that the manual mostly deals with US standards, so I'm sorry if I have misunderstood?

Secondly, I haven't found the frequencies provided by my cable provider (upc.no)
On their webpage, all links seem to be old and long gone, so if any norwegians who has managed to fix this, please tell me how to get started..
I will also try and google some more to find this but any help appreciated.

PS: I set the tuner type to -1 in /etc/ivtv, since this was what syslog reported.
Could it be I have to change this to something else?

Or, is it any way to start a "channel search" on my tv-card just to see if I can find any channels at all?

Thanks in advance, let me know if I should include any more information.
And I have tried to fix it myself before I asked you guys, but I can't seem to find just what I need from searching the forums, it seems like no matter what I type in, the very same posts appears... But maybe that's just me.
Author:  ille [ Tue Aug 16, 2005 2:45 am ]
Post subject: 
I live in sweden and has a cable provider. I used the ptune.pl util to list the channel freq. Then I tested each freq i.e. SE12 , E8 and so on until I found all channels. You can use mythtv-setup or mythweb to edit the frequency.


Code:
ptune.pl --list-channels -f pal-europe-west
ptune.pl 1.11 for use with http://ivtv.sf.net/

Available Channels for pal-europe-west:
SE11    = 231250
E8      = 196250
SE8     = 154250
S29     = 367250
E9      = 203250
S26     = 343250
S33     = 399250
SE15    = 259250
E7      = 189250
SE7     = 147250
E6      = 182250
SE4     = 126250
S02     = 76250
E2      = 48250
S24     = 327250
SE3     = 119250
SE16    = 266250
SE6     = 140250
SE17    = 273250
S25     = 335250
SE10    = 168250
E3      = 55250
S36     = 423250
SE14    = 252250
SE5     = 133250
SE20    = 294250
SE18    = 280250
S40     = 455250
S32     = 391250
S41     = 463250
S21     = 303250
S31     = 383250
SE12    = 238250
S30     = 375250
E4      = 62250
E11     = 217250
S23     = 319250
S03     = 83250
S22     = 311250
S37     = 431250
S27     = 351250
E12     = 224250
SE19    = 287250
S28     = 359250
S39     = 447250
SE1     = 105250
SE2     = 112250
SE13    = 245250
S34     = 407250
E10     = 210250
S01     = 69250
SE9     = 161250
E5      = 175250
S35     = 415250
S38     = 439250
...
Author:  moby [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 12:43 pm ]
Post subject: 
Update: First of all, thanks ille, for your quick answer, I tried listing channels and then trying each and every one but unfortenately, still static.

that was using ivtv-0.1.9, so I decided to upgrade to R5A16 to see if this would help.
So, after a few startup problems (X, sound, mplayer issues) I was finally able to check the TV, but still have the same issues, static / snow that is...
(But at least tveeprom now finds (hopefully ) correct tuner. ( 38 )

A disturbing thing is that it seems to change to NTSC after INIT IVTV
(check the dmesg log underneath..)

Just to be sure I tried capturing from command line with this parameters:
ivtvctl -u 0xff //setting PAL
ivtvctl -p 4 //my tuner
And then setting different frequencies found in output from:
ptune.pl --list-channels -f pal-europe-west

ivtvctl -F [frequency]
cat /dev/video0 > /myth/video/first.mpeg

Which gives me snow when watching..
I also changed input to all other numbers (0 - 9), and all of them produced black video, so I must be using correct tuner..

If someone would bother to check my logs or provide me with any hints, feel free to do so...! :)
Oh yes, by the way, my coax cable is connected to the tuner, I've checked it about a dozen times now, in case anyone wonders..

here comes my logs and configs:

dmesg:
ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
ivtv: version 0.2.0 (rc3j) loading
ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.11.9-chw-2 SMP preempt 586 gcc-3.3
ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info
ivtv: between the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines when
ivtv: mailing the ivtv-devel mailinglist.
ivtv: Autodetected WinTV PVR 350 card
ivtv: Found an iTVC15 based chip
PCI: Enabling device 0000:01:0a.0 (0014 -> 0016)
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:01:0a.0[A] -> GSI 22 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
ivtv: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
ivtv: XXX PCI device: 0x7124 vendor: 0x8086
ivtv: i2c attach [client=tveeprom,ok]
tveeprom: Hauppauge: model = 48139, rev = K257, serial# = 8205566
tveeprom: tuner = Philips FM1216 ME MK3 (idx = 57, type = 38 )
tveeprom: tuner fmt = PAL(D/K) (eeprom = 0x74, v4l2 = 0x00400e17)
tveeprom: audio_processor = CS5331 (type = 9)
ivtv: Tuner Type 38, Tuner formats 0x00400e17, Radio: yes, Model 0x00ad2557, Revision 0x00000001
ivtv: PAL tuner detected
ivtv: SECAM tuner detected
ivtv: Radio detected
tuner: Unknown parameter `type'
ivtv: Failed to load module tuner
saa7115: starting probe for adapter SMBus I801 adapter at e800 (0x0)
saa7115: starting probe for adapter ivtv i2c driver #0 (0x10005)
saa7115: detecting saa7115 client on address 0x42
saa7115: writing init values
ivtv: i2c attach [client=saa7115[0],ok]
saa7115: status: (1E) 0x48, (1F) 0xc0
saa7127: Unknown parameter `enable_output'
saa7127: Ignoring new-style parameters in presence of obsolete ones
ivtv: Failed to load module saa7127
msp34xx: ivtv version
msp34xx: init: chip=MSP3418W-B3, has NICAM support, simple (D) mode, simpler (G) no-thread mode
msp34xx: $Id$ compiled on: May 24 2005 00:43:28
ivtv: i2c attach [client=MSP3418W-B3,ok]
ivtv: Encoder revision: 0x02040011
ivtv: Decoder revision: 0x02020023
ivtv: Configuring WinTV PVR 350 card with 9 streams
ivtv: Create DMA stream 0 using 256 16384 byte buffers 4194304 kbytes total
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 0 minor 0
ivtv: Create DMA stream 1
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 1 minor 32
ivtv: Create stream 2 using 40 52224 byte buffers 2097152 kbytes total
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 2 minor 224
ivtv: Create DMA stream 3 using 455 4608 byte buffers 2097152 kbytes total
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 3 minor 24
ivtv: Create stream 4
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 4 minor 64
ivtv: Create DMA stream 5 using 16 65536 byte buffers 1048576 kbytes total
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 5 minor 16
ivtv: Create stream 6 using 1024 2048 byte buffers 262144 kbytes total
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 6 minor 228
ivtv: Create stream 7
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 7 minor 232
ivtv: Create DMA stream 8
ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, streamtype 8 minor 48
ivtv: Setting Tuner 38
ivtv: i2c client id: 0x02 not found!
saa7115: decoder set input (4)
saa7115: now setting Composite input
ivtv: Setting audio matrix to input 3, output 1
ivtv: Switching standard to PAL.
ivtv: i2c client id: 0x02 not found!
ivtv: ivtv_enc_thread: pid = 1730, itv = 0xd0a54aa0
ivtv: ivtv_dec_thread: pid = 1731, itv = 0xd0a54aa0
saa7115: decoder set norm PAL
saa7115: set audio: 0x01
ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found!
ivtv: Initialized WinTV PVR 350, card #0
ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================
cx2388x v4l2 driver version 0.0.4 loaded
lirc_i2c: chip found @ 0x18 (Hauppauge IR)
ivtv: i2c attach [client=Hauppauge IR,ok]
lirc_dev: lirc_register_plugin:sample_rate: 10
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
ivtv: Switching standard to NTSC.
ivtv: i2c client id: 0x02 not found!
saa7115: decoder set norm NTSC
saa7115: set audio: 0x01
ivtv: i2c client addr: 0x44 not found!
saa7115: decoder disable output
saa7115: decoder set input (0)
saa7115: now setting Composite input
ivtv: Setting audio matrix to input 1, output 1
saa7115: decoder enable output
saa7115: decoder set size
input: PC Speaker
ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A




here's my /etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv:


alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
alias char-major-81-0 bttv
alias /dev/video0 ivtv
options ivtv ivtv_debug=1
options tuner pal=1 type=38
options saa7127 enable_output=1 output_select=0 pal=1
options msp3400 once=1 simple=1
Author:  tjc [ Wed Aug 24, 2005 7:06 pm ]
Post subject: 
Here is one obvious problem...
Quote:
tuner: Unknown parameter `type'
ivtv: Failed to load module tuner

This line from your /etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv looks like the problem:
Quote:
options tuner pal=1 type=38

If the types are autodetected correctly there's no need to use even the modern version of that. Delete that part of the options line and you may be much happier. Also this:
Quote:
saa7127: Unknown parameter `enable_output'
saa7127: Ignoring new-style parameters in presence of obsolete ones
ivtv: Failed to load module saa7127

Indicates that it doesn't like part of this line:
Quote:
options saa7127 enable_output=1 output_select=0 pal=1

Again delete the bit it's complaining about and you should be happier.
Author:  moby [ Sat Sep 03, 2005 2:48 pm ]
Post subject: 
Hey tjc and thanks alot for your advice.
Deleted all the lines as instructed, and made some progress, at that point I had different static signals on each channel so I knew I was on the right track.
The solution to that was quite simple, don't remember where I found it but someone had this in their /etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv:

options ivtv ivtv_debug=1 tda9887=0

so after including tda9887=0, picture turned up! :)
For the record, here is my ivtv config in case someone else ever get into the same:

alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
alias char-major-81-0 bttv
alias /dev/video0 ivtv
options ivtv ivtv_debug=1 tda9887=0
options msp3400 once=1 simple=1


Really really happy to make it this far, and thanks to all developers and this friendly community, knoppmyth really rocks!

One more question by the way, I should probably start a new thread but here goes:
My liveTV is choppy, and this is probably due to not very optimized settings.
I haven't had the time to see if recordings are okay but watching movies haven't been a problem so I think it will be okay.

My hardware is a P4 celeron at 1GHz, 256 MB RAM, 40 + 200 GB disc with DMA enabled, and the potential problem(?) :
TV-out on a Sapphire Radeon 7000 PCI. (Using "mplayer -vo x11" to watch videos..)
So I believe I have some options and want to know what would be the best (and easiest :) )

1. Recompile mplayer to better suit my hardware..?
2. Enable tv-out on my hauppauge 350..?
3. use mplayer with framedrop ? (probably bad quality, but then again tv is sort of bad quality already so would I spot the difference?
4. Err.. some other trick?

I should probably just try myself and find out, but still want to check first:
Have I understood it right if tv-out on the 350 is the best option, both in terms of picture quality and less intensive for the cpu?
In that case, I will do it but it seemed like a bit of a task and I don't really wanna break my computer now that it works pretty good...
I wouldn't mind just recording stuff and watching it later so it's not really necessary to have the Live_TV bit for my use..
But what would you guys recommend?

Thanks in advance!
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