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Author:  Rsx024 [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:31 am ]
Post subject:  New Build! help and suggestions needed
Ok not only am i new to the mythtv world but i am also new to linux. This is why i am choosing knoppmyth and i was also told that later on after learning some more basics of linux that i should switch to fedora 4. so basically im looking into building a powerfull but cheap mythbox. here is what i have and what i am looking to purchase. any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.
Things i own already:
Raedeon 7500 128mb sdram w/ tvout
Case with 400w powersupply
pchdtv hd-3000
dvd+r drive


Things i will be purchasing
Asus P5V800
Intel Celeron D 341 2.93GHz
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1819509&CatId=0

maxtor 300gb
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1487962

2X Kingston 512MB PC3200 DDR 400MHz Memory
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1430963&CatId=0

Ultra Silent 80mm Stealth Fan
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=586525

Masscool 8W501B1M3G cpu fan
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1272112&CatId=0


Masscool - Thermal Gel Resealable Tube 4x Applications
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=480215&Tab=11&NoMapp=0

So this is my proposed setup. it seems a reasonable price (around 350). please any suggestions on changings things, cheaper prices, or any thing i can get rid of or add would be greaty apreciated. is celeron d a decent route to go? hows the quality of a hd-3000 on a tv? i have a 27 inch that i iwill be using it on for the most part. just some other question i know i can search for but if some one doesnt mind answering can my hd-3000 pick up digital cable channels? i have cox cable in phoenix az we pay for hbo and do have a digital cable box if the card cant tune digital channels can i hook up the digital box to it kinda like a vcr to a tv? last quesition can any one recommend a remote? i was thinking if no remote i would settle for cheap wireless keybored
Author:  gr8nash [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:01 am ]
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seems like a good setup the only thing i would change is the Raedeon 7500 128mb sdram w/ tvout.. Knoppmyth only supports Nvidia cards out of the box.. so anything else will have you compiling and mod probing to your hearts content. go spend the 35 dollars on a mx4000 nvidia card with svideo out.

one side note.. having spent many hours on fedora.. and a few mythboxs i can tell you fedora holds NOOOOO advantages for mythtv even with linux experience.. the one exception is if you plan on using it as a workstation/mythbox. knoppmyth is by far the way to go for a dedicated mythbox.
Author:  gr8nash [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:13 am ]
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celeron d a decent route to go


it will work..but i would get an AMD 3000 + or faster over a Intel Celery.

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hows the quality of a hd-3000 on a tv?


its a SWEET card i own 6 of them and 1 air2pc. you dont use the hd3000 for TV out.. you use your nvidia card your getting =)

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can my hd-3000 pick up digital cable channels?


NO.. no card can except for cable cards.. which will never be availble for linux thanks to DRM happy politicians. Digital cable by and large is encrypted. you can ask them for their encryptions keys and report back! :D

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if the card cant tune digital channels can i hook up the digital box to it kinda like a vcr to a tv?


yes..but if your going that route the HD3000 is not a sweet card
the HD3000 is for HD content (mainly over the air.. though it can do QAM)
if your capturing using svideo Get a PVR150 or pvr250. many new cable boxes do firewire output which _SOME_ people have gotten working. then you wouldnt even need a capture card!!! how sweet is that!

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last quesition can any one recommend a remote?


The Streamzap PC remote 26$ like you find here:
http://www.pcalchemy.com/index.php/cNam ... f44ab76e46
its USB, simple, cheap, and works right out of the box with knoppmyth.. though im sure there are more expensive and nicer remotes.

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i was thinking if no remote i would settle for cheap wireless keybored


The BTC 9019URF is VERY NICE 44$ but is RF with an intergrated mouse!!
i love mine!! i doubt there is a nicer one for the money!
http://www.pcalchemy.com/index.php/cNam ... s-and-mice
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Author:  Rsx024 [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 2:30 am ]
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cool thanks for all your help. :D
the reason i went away from amd is because i figured they run a little hotter which equal more fans wich equal more noise. dont get me wrong my main comp is amd 64 3700 im definitely happy with it :D

i got a directv dish in my backyard from previous house owner would that pickup any signal lol? we have cable so we dont use it or maybe its primestar. i will have to look at it in the day light tommorow.

if i were to go amd what do you think about sempron?
AMD Sempron 64 3000http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16819104241

BIOSTAR K8M800-M7Ahttp://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16813138271
Author:  cesman [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:34 pm ]
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Why would you switch to Fedora? If you want a box to function has a PVR, there is no better or easier way than KnoppMyth (IMHO). If you search the forum, you see folks that have switch from Fedora to KnoppMyth.
Author:  Rsx024 [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:54 pm ]
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well im not definitely switching it was just suggested to me by a co-worker but i guess like gr8nash said if im only gonna be using it as dedicated pvr i should just stay knoppmyth
Author:  Dale [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:00 pm ]
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I vote that you go with Fedora. Then you will get a real appreciation of all the work cesman puts in. ;)
Author:  tjc [ Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:08 pm ]
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Been there, done that, have the thin spots on my scalp from tearing my hair out ... ;-) NOT RECOMMENDED.
Author:  Rsx024 [ Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:07 am ]
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hahaha agreed tjc i tried to install debian once before sarge was released and that didnt work out to well :D
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