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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 2:03 am 
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I have been using knoppmyth for more than a year with my PVR350 but I have never gotten the PVR500 to give me anything but snow.

My dmesg follows. what other info can i post to help fix this problem?

Linux video capture interface: v2.00
ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
ivtv: version 0.8.2 (tagged release) loading
ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.18-chw-13 SMP preempt mod_unload 586 gcc-4.1
ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23415 based)
PCI: Found IRQ 5 for device 0000:02:0d.0
PCI: Sharing IRQ 5 with 0000:02:09.0
ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-dec.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
tuner 1-0043: chip found @ 0x86 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
tda9887 1-0043: tda988[5/6/7] found @ 0x43 (tuner)
tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
msp3400 1-0040: MSP4448G-A2 found @ 0x80 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
msp3400 1-0040: MSP4448G-A2 supports radio, mode is autodetect and autoselect
saa7115 1-0021: saa7115 found @ 0x42 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
tveeprom 1-0050: Hauppauge model 48132, rev K268, serial# 2866999
tveeprom 1-0050: tuner model is LG TAPE H001F MK3 (idx 68, type 47)
tveeprom 1-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
tveeprom 1-0050: audio processor is MSP4448 (idx 27)
tveeprom 1-0050: decoder processor is SAA7115 (idx 19)
tveeprom 1-0050: has radio, has IR remote
ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350
saa7127 1-0044: saa7129 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
ivtv0: Decoder revision: 0x02020023
ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPEG
ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV
ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI
ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM audio
ivtv0: Registered device radio0 for encoder radio
ivtv0: Registered device video16 for decoder MPEG
ivtv0: Registered device vbi8 for decoder VBI
ivtv0: Registered device vbi16 for decoder VOUT
ivtv0: Registered device video48 for decoder YUV
ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-init.mpg firmware (155648 bytes)
tuner 1-0061: type set to 47 (LG NTSC (TAPE series))
ivtv0: Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-350, card #0
ivtv: ====================== NEXT CARD ======================
ivtv1: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
ivtv1: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
tuner 2-0060: TEA5767 detected.
tuner 2-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
tuner 2-0060: type set to 62 (Philips TEA5767HN FM Radio)
tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
tveeprom 2-0050: Hauppauge model 23552, rev D487, serial# 8742851
tveeprom 2-0050: tuner model is Samsung TCPN 2121P30A (idx 87, type 70)
tveeprom 2-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
tveeprom 2-0050: second tuner model is Philips TEA5768HL FM Radio (idx 101, type 62)
tveeprom 2-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
tveeprom 2-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
tveeprom 2-0050: has radio, has no IR remote
ivtv1: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1)
cx25840 2-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
cx25840 2-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes)
wm8775 2-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
ivtv1: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
ivtv1: Registered device video1 for encoder MPEG
ivtv1: Registered device video33 for encoder YUV
ivtv1: Registered device vbi1 for encoder VBI
ivtv1: Registered device video25 for encoder PCM audio
ivtv1: Registered device radio1 for encoder radio
tuner 2-0061: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N)
ivtv1: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1), card #1
ivtv: ====================== NEXT CARD ======================
ivtv2: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
ivtv2: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
ivtv2: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
tuner 3-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #2)
cx25840 3-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #2)
cx25840 3-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes)
wm8775 3-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #2)
tveeprom 3-0050: Hauppauge model 23552, rev D487, serial# 8742851
tveeprom 3-0050: tuner model is Samsung TCPN 2121P30A (idx 87, type 70)
tveeprom 3-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
tveeprom 3-0050: second tuner model is Philips TEA5768HL FM Radio (idx 101, type 62)
tveeprom 3-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
tveeprom 3-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
tveeprom 3-0050: has radio, has no IR remote
ivtv2: Correcting tveeprom data: no radio present on second unit
ivtv2: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2)
ivtv2: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
ivtv2: Registered device video2 for encoder MPEG
ivtv2: Registered device video34 for encoder YUV
ivtv2: Registered device vbi2 for encoder VBI
ivtv2: Registered device video26 for encoder PCM audio
tuner 3-0061: type set to 50 (TCL 2002N)
ivtv2: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2), card #2
ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================

Thanks all.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 11:26 am 
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Try the following:

- Remove any "options ivtv tuner=" line from /etc/modprobe.conf where I suspect that your forcing it to type 50.

- Get into mythtv-setup and follow the walk through that's now the second major item in the outline here - http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=BlackScreenWatchingTV (BTW - This got a major overhaul recently. If you haven't see it lately, you haven't seen it.) You should have 3 cards defined /dev/video0, /dev/video1, /dev/video2, all of type "MPEG-2 encoder card", and they should be autoprobed/recognized succesfully. The Input Connections for each of those carrds should use the default frequency set (from General page 3) and the same Video Source.

- Make sure you reboot so that the modprobe options change takes effect.

- Swap cable feeds at the back of the cartds with the PVR-350. This should help eliminate most cabling worries.

If you're still seeing snow after that you may have a bad card.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 7:53 pm 
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Didn't find anything in /etc/modprobe that was setting type. I did go into /etc/mythtv/module/ivtv and change the type from 50 to 70 for the second two tuners. After a reboot and cable swap,
!EVERYTHING WORKS!

Thanks for the tip

Now I have to figure out how to adjust the volume for each seperate tuner.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 30, 2006 10:17 pm 
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That's a good thing, and you must have a 4 leaf clover in your pocket. Lots of folks have serious problems with those Samsung tuners. I should have noticed those earlier... :oops:

BTW - What version of KnoppMyth are you running? I saw the 0.8.2 driver and assumed R5E50.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:52 pm 
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Yup
R5E50 release.
As far as a clover leaf ?
If it was truely there my PVR500 would have worked LAST year.

Any idea how to affect recording volume on any particular tuner?

Thanks Again..

HN Year1


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:52 pm 
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Search for an older posting by me that talks about "change_tuner0.sh" and "delayed_settings.sh".


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 8:02 am 
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I'm new to Myth/Knopp and am doing a fresh install of R5E50...

I have a PVR-500 in a Shuttle SN95G5.

I've got it dual-booting Windows MCE2005 and R5E50.

The PVR-500 is crystal clear in Windows, however in R5E50, it is "fuzzy". Not, terrible, but not clear. It's not fuzzy like if I set it to the wrong cable frequency. It's like the MPEG decoder is set too low or something....

I've checked everything I can think of and can't get it to look good.

Reviewing the recommendations here in this thread... There is no /etc/modprobe.conf

My DMESG:

ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
ivtv: version 0.8.2 (tagged release) loading
ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.18-chw-13 SMP preempt mod_unload 586 gcc-4.1
ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [APC3] enabled at IRQ 18
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:08.0[A] -> Link [APC3] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
tuner 2-0060: TEA5767 detected.
tuner 2-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
tuner 2-0060: type set to 62 (Philips TEA5767HN FM Radio)
tuner 2-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[00301bb700000300]
tveeprom 2-0050: Hauppauge model 23552, rev E687, serial# 10060725
tveeprom 2-0050: tuner model is Samsung TCPN 2121P30A (idx 87, type 70)
tveeprom 2-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
tveeprom 2-0050: second tuner model is Philips TEA5768HL FM Radio (idx 101, type 62)
tveeprom 2-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
tveeprom 2-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
tveeprom 2-0050: has radio, has no IR remote
ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1)
eth1394: eth1: IEEE-1394 IPv4 over 1394 Ethernet (fw-host0)
cx25840 2-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
cx25840 2-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes)
wm8775 2-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPEG
ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV
ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI
ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM audio
ivtv0: Registered device radio0 for encoder radio
tuner 2-0061: type set to 70 (Samsung TCPN 2121P30A)
ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1), card #0
ivtv: ====================== NEXT CARD ======================
ivtv1: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:03:09.0[A] -> Link [APC4] -> GSI 19 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
ivtv1: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
tuner 3-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
cx25840 3-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
cx25840 3-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes)
wm8775 3-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
tveeprom 3-0050: Hauppauge model 23552, rev E687, serial# 10060725
tveeprom 3-0050: tuner model is Samsung TCPN 2121P30A (idx 87, type 70)
tveeprom 3-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
tveeprom 3-0050: second tuner model is Philips TEA5768HL FM Radio (idx 101, type 62)
tveeprom 3-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
tveeprom 3-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
tveeprom 3-0050: has radio, has no IR remote
ivtv1: Correcting tveeprom data: no radio present on second unit
ivtv1: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2)
ivtv1: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
ivtv1: Registered device video1 for encoder MPEG
ivtv1: Registered device video33 for encoder YUV
ivtv1: Registered device vbi1 for encoder VBI
ivtv1: Registered device video25 for encoder PCM audio
tuner 3-0061: type set to 70 (Samsung TCPN 2121P30A)
ivtv1: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2), card #1
ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================

My /etc/mythtv/modules/ivtv

alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
#options ivtv debug=1
#options tuner type=2
options msp3400 once=1
install ivtv /sbin/modprobe tuner; /sbin/modprobe msp3400; /sbin/modprobe saa7115; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install ivtv
remove ivtv /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove ivtv && /sbin/modprobe -r saa7115 && /sbin/modprobe -r msp3400 && /sbin/modprob
e -r tuner

I have followed the mythtv-setup and setup both tuners to "MPEG-2 encoder card" and the input connections are using the US-CABLE frequency set.....

Where else can I look to make this card work???


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 7:32 pm 
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The good news is that there are lots of parameters we can try jacking with, the bad news is that we're going to have to reinvent this, since so much of the stuff that used to be done via ivtvctl is now done via v4l2-ctl instead. The first thing is to gather some data. Start with:
Code:
v4l2-ctl -d0 -l


Also, if you haven''t see the post about using 720x480 capture to deal with certain ivtv issues, the upgrade hints posting should include a pointer to it.


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I had some luck improving the picture on my pvr-150 using v4l2-ctl I posted here...

http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13257

As tjc pointed out, the 720x480 capture resolution is important


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Well I had some success with this parm. Not 100% but better.

I knew about the 720 x 480 settings in MythTV.

The v4l2-ctl -c temporal_filter=8 -d command is something I haven't found before.

It definately made a difference. It still isn't as good as when I boot into Windows but....

Windows produces a softer image overall but no background fuzzyness. Linux is sharper, yet still has the background fuzzyness...

The fuzzyness I'm seeing in Linux is like a background noise issue. It looks like a chainlink fence moving around or vertical waves is the best I can describe it.

the v4l2-ctl temporal_filter setting helps but doesn't eliminate it for me. Setting it too high makes me feel like I'm back in the 60's and on some good drugs!

This is good though, at least it's much more watchable now.....


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There are any number of other filtering options you can use, but we'll have to refer you to the ivtv and v4l2 wikis for what to try.


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I've done a reboot and re-tested with the parm change and it seems "good enough".

Is there a place on the How-To or Wiki to put this? There is definately a great number of these threads floating around....


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Start on the TroubleShooting page and if you don't find one that you think matches (Say PictureQualityIssues) then add a new one. I'd recommend using the diagnostic/fix format that most of those pages are written in.


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