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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:01 pm 
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Hello all,

I'm a complete linux newbie, but I've managed to get myth up, record tv and sound, and have it running just fine. So far so good!

Kind of :D

Everything seems to run fine, but at some random point in the day (seems to be the afternoon) my machine completely crashes - hard lock, have to turn the box off. I've not done anything, scheduled anything, at most I have an open SSH session into the box and Myth is sitting on the main menu.

I don't even know where to look unfortunately - the only other bit of info I can throw out is that when I rip a DVD, it only works if I do a straight rip. If I attempt a transcode I can pretty much be sure it will crash during the transcoding process (step 1 or 2) - I've never gotten through a transcoding and have tried about 10 times. I don't know if it's related, but it's something..

One last bit of info - I was trying to use remote shares to a windows box with samba and had music and gallery pointing to those shares. Myth would crash trying to access either gallery or music almost instantly upon going into those areas... I do have large collections of music and pictures, but Myth was no longer even responding to pings during that time. In the end, I just added another drive to my Myth box and moved all the content local. Again, might be related... might not.

My specs:
Gigabyte GA-6VX-4X Motherboard
Celeron 1.2ghz
Almost 400megs of RAM
Hauppage PVR-250
Nvidia GeForce FX5200 64MB
SB Live Platinum
ATA133 PCI Board
DLink Ethernet (DFE-530TX)
A USB2 PCI Board
Disabled onboard IDE, USB, Power Management (as best I could) and just about everything else on the mobo

Running latest KnoppMyth! Let me know if anyone has any ideas - it's such an awesome piece of software, just need to get this to stop crashing and I'm gold.

Thanks!


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 Post subject: One last thing
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:14 pm 
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Here's my /proc/interrupts

root@mythtv:~# cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0
0: 7052 XT-PIC timer
1: 4 XT-PIC keyboard
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
8: 1 XT-PIC rtc
9: 20 XT-PIC usb-uhci
10: 8031 XT-PIC ide0, ide1
11: 4028 XT-PIC usb-uhci, EMU10K1, eth0, nvidia
12: 0 XT-PIC ivtv: iTVC15/16 mpg2 encoder chip
NMI: 0
ERR: 0

11 looks suspect to me, but don't know how to fix it.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:30 pm 
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have you disabled your commercial marking? that killed my system pretty effectively until I managed to upgrade it to 16... couldn't wait until Cesman upgraded the main code base... now mine's stable.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:42 pm 
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scottf wrote:
have you disabled your commercial marking? that killed my system pretty effectively until I managed to upgrade it to 16... couldn't wait until Cesman upgraded the main code base... now mine's stable.


I'll give that a shot right now! I did remove the USB board from my computer to see if that helped as it was crashing every 5 minutes with it in.


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scottf wrote:
have you disabled your commercial marking? that killed my system pretty effectively until I managed to upgrade it to 16... couldn't wait until Cesman upgraded the main code base... now mine's stable.


speaking of which have they made any improvements in the commercial detection, it's always been just about useless for me.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 1:58 am 
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I know that it flags commercials now without killing my box. Aside from that, I actually haven't tried using auto-commercial skip YET... still feeling things out...

Where I'm currently at is the backend has ran for ~ 3 days (new record for this box) and the front end seems to be more stable now as well - seemed like it would drop from time to time.

Next test is to leave "watching TV" on, and see what happens - normally that would crash after 3-4 hours previously...


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scottf wrote:
I know that it flags commercials now without killing my box. Aside from that, I actually haven't tried using auto-commercial skip YET... still feeling things out...

Where I'm currently at is the backend has ran for ~ 3 days (new record for this box) and the front end seems to be more stable now as well - seemed like it would drop from time to time.

Next test is to leave "watching TV" on, and see what happens - normally that would crash after 3-4 hours previously...


Well I left the box running overnight and just checked it, and sure enough it's crashed. I did disable the commercial marking, but it appears that's not what it was - one thing is that as of right now I don't have any actual TV signal running in (although it's working), and I have no shows set up to record since I'm just trying to get the box stable before putting it side by side with my Tivo.

I moved a few boards around in the box to try and get some off the same IRQ. No love - several are still sharing IRQ 11, and while I don't know if that's the problem, I'm still left wondering if it could be some IRQ conflict with my ethernet board?


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 Post subject: Something interesting
PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:48 am 
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So I just now did an SSH into the machine from my WinXP box using Putty and did a
Code:
more /var/log/syslog
to see if I could find anything in the log.

The log is huge so I just held the spacebar to run through a section real quick and BAM - crashed the box (hard crash). MythFrontEnd was running at the time when this happened.

So then I quite the FrontEnd after rebooting and tried the same thing. No crash. I then launched the FrontEnd and the box died seconds later (my ssh session was still open).

Does this sound like something funky on the networking side to you guys? Or is it possible some cron job is running that's killing the box only when the FrontEnd starts? I don't seem to ever crash doing any work when the front end is not running (I'm going to test this by quitting the FrontEnd today and leave the box runnign while at work).

Any ideas? Thanks for the help so far!


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well, gee, now that I thought it was stable... it exploded... because of no more space on the root partition... seems that between kernel and syslog the box had utilized ~ 1 gb of space in the / volume... apparently my box experienced a panic or something... and syslog was > 500mb by its self... Kernel seems to be a virtual mirror of some of the data going into syslog... dang, just after midnight...

Code:
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel: c299188c e3012b65 e306615f 00000001 dcded800 e306
6122 00000156 e2ffb8d4
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel:        dcded800 c69b3000 d7882124 e2ffb8d4 d78821
24 c69b3000 00000000 d2643860
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel:        d7882124 00000000 d2643860 d78820a0 e3012b
89 d78820a0 00000000 dcded800
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel: Call Trace:    [nvidia:__insmod_nvidia_O/lib/modu
les/2.4.25-chw/kernel/drivers/vid+-599195/96] [nvidia:__insmod_nvidia_O/lib/modu
les/2.4.25-chw/kernel/drivers/vid+-257697/96] [nvidia:__insmod_nvidia_O/lib/modu
les/2.4.25-chw/kernel/drivers/vid+-257758/96] [nvidia:__insmod_nvidia_O/lib/modu
les/2.4.25-chw/kernel/drivers/vid+-694060/96] [nvidia:__insmod_nvidia_O/lib/modu
les/2.4.25-chw/kernel/drivers/vid+-694060/96]


and then I see this:
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Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel:   [nvidia:__insmod_nvidia_O/lib/modules/2.4.25-ch
w/kernel/drivers/vid+-330915/96] [nvidia:__insmod_nvidia_O/lib/modules/2.4.25-ch
w/kernel/drivers/vid+-353149/96] [nvidia:__insmod_nvidia_O/lib/modules/2.4.25-ch
w/kernel/drivers/vid+-349775/96] [__make_request+364/2000] [generic_make_request
+209/304] [nvidia:__insmod_nvidia_O/lib/modules/2.4.25-chw/kernel/drivers/vid+-3
48404/96]
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel:   [write_some_buffers+244/400] [bdput+21/192] [sc
hedule+627/1072] [write_unlocked_buffers+34/48] [sync_buffers+8/64] [__block_fsy
nc+37/96]
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel:   [blkdev_put+300/336] [blkdev_close+18/32] [fput
+253/288] [filp_close+101/176] [sys_close+90/144] [system_call+51/64]
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel: <c013c32a>]
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel:   [system_call+51/64]
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel: c299188c e3012b65 e306615f 00000001 dcded800 e306
6122 00000156 e2ffb8d4
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel:        dcded800 c69b3000 d78820a0 e2ffb8d4 d78820
a0 c69b3000 00000000 d2643320
Sep 15 00:18:51 mythtv kernel:        d78820a0 00000000 d2643320 d7882124 e3012b
89 d7882124 00000000 dcded800


then it keeps repeating the last one until the root partition was FULL...

Oh, other notable pieces of information about my system:

Abit AN7 (Nforce 2 chipset)
PVR-350
Wintv-401
Seagate sata 160
on-board audio card Via spdif-Optical out
Geforce 4mx w/ svid out (I haven't been very successful with TVout on the 350)
knopmyth R4v4.1 upgraded with mythtv 0.16 deb's...
IVTV 1.9 drivers...


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 8:47 am 
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Sounds like the problem I had with a VIA chipset MB I had. I switched to a non-VIA (don't remember the chipset, but I think it's an NFORCE), and I haven't had a problem since.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 9:58 am 
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which nvidia drivers did you use?

whichever one it was you might want to try reinstalling it, because there are some errors about it in there.

I know you have the nforce, but it does sound alot like the via problems sounds like it's crashing anytime there is a large amount of dma activity. would be lots of disk write, or lots of network activity. Would be really good if you could somehow get so much stuff from being on int11 for sure though.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:01 am 
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I had such hard locks caused by the network cards (different types). Try to pull yours and see whether that helps.

Johannes


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:11 pm 
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Going to try a new network card and see if that works when I get back from work today.

I also noticed in syslog this:
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Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Encoder revision: 0x02040011
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, minor 0
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, minor 32
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Registered v4l2 device, minor 224
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv kernel: ivtv: loaded
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv kernel: lirc_dev: IR Remote Control driver registered, at
 major 61
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv kernel: bttv: driver version 0.9.15 loaded
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv kernel: bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each
 for capture
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv kernel: bttv: driver version 0.9.15 loaded
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv kernel: bttv: using 8 buffers with 2080k (520 pages) each
 for capture
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.25-chw/kernel/drivers/media/vide
o/bttv.o: init_module: No such device
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv insmod: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect mo
dule parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.       You may find more
 information in syslog or the output from dmesg
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.25-chw/v4l2/bttv.o: init_module:
 No such device
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv insmod: Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect mo
dule parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters.       You may find more
 information in syslog or the output from dmesg
Sep 15 07:43:33 mythtv insmod: /lib/modules/2.4.25-chw/v4l2/bttv.o: insmod bttv
failed


Does that look like something I should be concerned about?


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well that is just the bttv driver failing to find a device, if you do not have a software based card it is not a huge deal, but then again there is no reason to attempt to load bttv if you do not have a software device.

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tvboy wrote:
I had such hard locks caused by the network cards (different types). Try to pull yours and see whether that helps.

Johannes


So I borrowed a NIC from a friend (a 3COM 3C905), managed to fumble my way through installing the module (I hope correctly), and am testing everything out tonight. So far, if I use my previous tests as an example, it's going pretty well.

I'm going to try and transcode a DVD tonight and see if it makes it through. If so, I'd say that swapping out the NIC worked. Coincidentally, the new NIC sits at IRQ 5, which could point to the IRQ problem.

Once again, many thanks to everyone who has helped - I truly appreciate it!


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