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 Post subject: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:50 pm 
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Just a quick update... I tried both methods this morning to upgrade to 8.5 from the latest 8.4... Both failed. The pacman -Syu seemed to work until the mythtv-setup step to upgrade the DB schema. No message... Just didn't complete and then would not connect to backend. Then I tried again using the ISO method. It failed during initial setup (Didnt write down the message - will do it again later to get it).

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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:19 pm 
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Saw this too late but I am in the same boat. May want to hold off on updating for now.

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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:27 pm 
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In mythtv-setup double check the IP addresses in Host Address Backend Setup. v29 changed some of the networking settings. Specifically look at Primary IP Address/DNS Name and if Allow Connections from All Subnets is disabled the IPs can be set manually.

Check your backend logs and double check that the backend is not running (ps aux | grep mythbackend).


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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:50 pm 
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I tried an ISO upgrade (also) and it crashed at what I think is it trying to start up X. I did a
Code:
systemctl -status linhes-install.service

It loads the nvidia-340xx driver, after a few more steps, sets the resolution to auto and then gives a message that says
Code:
Failed to start Start LinHES installer at displey

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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:11 pm 
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Made some progress by doing a iso install with the Special Hardware option and selecting vesa
Upgrading now.

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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:27 pm 
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Yikes, I made the same mistake in my excitement.

ALWAYS check the forums first. I know better. :(

I was on 8.4.3 but on older hardware. I have an embedded NVidia 9400 chipset on an older Core2 motherboard. I did the upgrade and reboot and now I'm caught in an X failure on the splash screen, watching the logs via SSH I can see:

[ 761.788] (II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
[ 761.788] (II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
[ 761.788] (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
[ 761.792] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the
[ 761.793] (EE) NVIDIA: system's kernel log for additional error messages and
[ 761.793] (EE) NVIDIA: consult the NVIDIA README for details.
[ 761.796] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the
[ 761.796] (EE) NVIDIA: system's kernel log for additional error messages and
[ 761.796] (EE) NVIDIA: consult the NVIDIA README for details.
[ 761.796] (EE) No devices detected.
[ 761.796] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[ 761.796] (EE) no screens found(EE)
[ 761.796] (EE)
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.x.org
for help.
[ 761.796] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[ 761.796] (EE)
[ 762.365] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.


It seems the Nvidia installer hasn't kicked off. Unclear if I can get control of the system and change the driver and continue or do I need to revert to ISO?

Can I force run the installer for the legacy NVidia stuff somehow?

-Jeff

Hardware info in case it is needed:

[root@mythtv log]# lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Host Bridge (rev b1)
00:00.1 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Memory Controller (rev b1)
00:03.0 ISA bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 LPC Bridge (rev b2)
00:03.1 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Memory Controller (rev b1)
00:03.2 SMBus: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 SMBus (rev b1)
00:03.3 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Memory Controller (rev b1)
00:03.4 RAM memory: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Memory Controller (rev b1)
00:03.5 Co-processor: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Co-processor (rev b1)
00:04.0 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 OHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev b1)
00:04.1 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev b1)
00:06.0 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 OHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev b1)
00:06.1 USB controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller (rev b1)
00:08.0 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 High Definition Audio (rev b1)
00:09.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 PCI Bridge (rev b1)
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 Ethernet (rev b1)
00:0b.0 SATA controller: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 AHCI Controller (rev b1)
00:10.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 PCI Express Bridge (rev b1)
00:15.0 PCI bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP79 PCI Express Bridge (rev b1)
01:0e.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23 IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation C79 [GeForce 9400] (rev b1)
03:00.0 Multimedia controller: Philips Semiconductors SAA7164 (rev 81)

[root@mythtv log]# cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz
stepping : 10
microcode : 0xa07
cpu MHz : 1600.000
cache size : 3072 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 0
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 0
initial apicid : 0
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf eagerfpu pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 xsave lahf_lm dtherm
bugs :
bogomips : 5599.46
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor : 1
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 23
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7400 @ 2.80GHz
stepping : 10
microcode : 0xa07
cpu MHz : 1600.000
cache size : 3072 KB
physical id : 0
siblings : 2
core id : 1
cpu cores : 2
apicid : 1
initial apicid : 1
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 13
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl aperfmperf eagerfpu pni dtes64 monitor ds_cpl est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 xsave lahf_lm dtherm
bugs :
bogomips : 5599.46
clflush size : 64
cache_alignment : 64
address sizes : 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

[root@mythtv log]# free -m
total used free shared buff/cache available
Mem: 1751 826 577 0 347 778
Swap: 3905 0 3905


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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:28 pm 
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If after a pacman -Syu and it rebooted and you had the message that it couldn't connect to mythfrontend I don't think an ISO upgrade would fix it. ISO Upgrade doesn't touch the db and if mythbackend is having an issue it is probably a db config issue.


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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:30 pm 
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Jeff,
From your ssh session run sudo xconfig.sh. That should detect and install the 340xx driver which I think is correct for that hardware.


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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:32 pm 
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Thanks, will try that and report back in a few.

-Jeff

[root@mythtv log]# xconfig.sh
Detected NVIDIA as the video card type
GeForce 9400 0x086A B 1
Checking for nvidia-340xx in cache or online
Checking for nvidia-340xx-utils in cache or online
Checking for opencl-nvidia-340xx in cache or online
Checking for libglvnd in cache or online
Installing nvidia-340xx driver
Setting resolution to nvidia-auto-select
Running plymouth_config
[root@mythtv log]#

Rebooting...


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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:38 pm 
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Doh, I'm afraid that didn't seem to help although it seems like it should have resolved it. Did I miss a step anywhere?

This is the post-reboot situation (same as before, splash screen and if I exit out I can see messages, this is the current log update):

[ 78.974] (II) Module wfb: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 78.974] compiled for 1.19.3, module version = 1.0.0
[ 78.974] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[ 78.974] (II) Loading sub module "ramdac"
[ 78.974] (II) LoadModule: "ramdac"
[ 78.974] (II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
[ 78.978] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the
[ 78.978] (EE) NVIDIA: system's kernel log for additional error messages and
[ 78.978] (EE) NVIDIA: consult the NVIDIA README for details.
[ 78.981] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module. Please see the
[ 78.981] (EE) NVIDIA: system's kernel log for additional error messages and
[ 78.981] (EE) NVIDIA: consult the NVIDIA README for details.
[ 78.981] (EE) No devices detected.
[ 78.981] (EE)
Fatal server error:
[ 78.981] (EE) no screens found(EE)
[ 78.981] (EE)
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support
at http://wiki.x.org
for help.
[ 78.981] (EE) Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for additional information.
[ 78.981] (EE)
[ 79.535] (EE) Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

-Jeff


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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:39 pm 
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Install finished and a good reboot but now can not connect to mythbackend.
IP address looks good.

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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:41 pm 
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No idea why but .... Success!

All I did was go in to myth setup and check on the network setting as BR recommended. Everything looked good and I made no changes. I backed out and it asked me to save changes which I did and the frontend poped up with all recording intact.

Thanks for the help.

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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:47 pm 
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Big boy stan, I am thinking the Saving changes in mythtv-setup probably did it. As I said there were some networking changes in Myth. My guess is saving changes added the new settings to the db.


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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:54 pm 
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Oh no. Since I did the install with Vesa, i did a sudo xconfig.sh which ran fine but now after a reboot I am back to the blue and yellow LinHES splash screen and going no further. Dots are moving but no backend on any of the frontends. No response from the keyboard.

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 Post subject: Re: Upgrade 8.4 to 8.5
PostPosted: Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:03 pm 
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There is something wrong with the 340xx driver but it is weird. I have 3 boxes that are running 210s and the 340xx driver and no issues. I just swapped in another 210 into my dev box and am seeing the same boot issue on the ISO. So one 210 had the problem while the other three don't. Makes no sense.


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