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rickyli99

Post subject: Upgrading video card?

Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:23 pm

Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:47 pm

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Can anyone tell me what program/command i need to run to change the xwindows video card? I had to swap video cards on my myth box. Now xwindows bombs on boot up.

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tjc

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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:36 pm

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:00 am

Posts: 9551

Location: Arlington, MA

You need to install the right driver (if it's not already there) and update your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 config file.

If you think that's a really fuzzy answer, you're right. However It could have been worse, I could have suggested that you backup and auto upgrade. ;-)

Without the relevant hardware details that's the best anyone can do for you. We need to know both what your old video card was (as a clue to the drivers you have installed) and what your new video card is (so we can tell you what drivers you need to install). Otherwise we're just playing "Doctor it hurts!"

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Dinki

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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:52 pm

Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:25 pm

Posts: 244

While this is not my post, I do have a similar situation where I've swapped a problematic GEForce 4 with a Radeon 9000 and am having trouble getting X to start too. Will doing an autoupgrade properly install the ATI driver, or will it try to restore my NVidia XF86Config-4 file in the process of autoupgrading?

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tjc

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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:09 pm

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:00 am

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Location: Arlington, MA

It should do fresh hardware detection and configuration. Besides which XF86Config-4 is not something that is normally included in a backup.

Auto Upgrade seems like a pretty radical way to solve this problem however... Kind of like killing flies with a baseball bat...

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Dinki

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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:19 pm

Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:25 pm

Posts: 244

Whatever works!

I've tired of the fight! Besides, I just upgraded a few days ago anyway. Thanks for the tips...

rickyli99, I'm done trying to hijack your thread. My apologies.

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rickyli99

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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:23 pm

Joined: Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:47 pm

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Well my original video card was a Rage 128 Pro 16mb card, and the new card (well not quite new) is the onboard intel video cards that the mobo came with. I'm not infront of the computer right now so I can't tell you the exact chipset.

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tjc

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Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 9:42 pm

Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:00 am

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Location: Arlington, MA

Ooo... I don't think you're going to get good Xv or v4l support with that...

Your best bet is to try the "svga" driver which is already installed. Copy the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4.1st file over /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 (back this up first), change the "Driver" line in the "Device" section to refer to "svga", make sure that your "HorizSync" and "VertRefresh" ranges are right in the "Monitor" section, and give it a whirl.

BTW - I'm not sure I'd call that an "upgrade". ;-)

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Dinki

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Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2006 2:01 pm

Joined: Fri Dec 26, 2003 2:25 pm

Posts: 244

tjc wrote:

Just as a note, this did not work. On the upgrade install all seemed to be going well until the reboot where when the box tried to start up X it outputed a bunch of garbled colored lines. I typed in the root password and noticed a change in the color of the lines on the screen so I can only assume that it did not fail to start X, but what was displayed was all garbage.

I did another Auto Upgrade, this time with the NVidia card installed. I went through the set up. I powered down the system and put the Radeon back in. I booted and it complained about not being able to start X. I install the automatic driver install (ati-driver-installer-8.23.7-i386.run) from ATI's website. It installed a useable X display. Unfortunately, it is at 1024x768 . It looks like the ATI setup added a few things to my existing XF86Config-4 file as it still has some references to Nvidia in it.

Can someone tell me what I need to do to clean up my XF86Config-4 and in doing would let me run at 800x600?

Code:

# Auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config

Section "ServerLayout"

# PS/2 Mouse using /dev/input/mice in Kernel 2.6
# Serial Mouse not detected
        Identifier     "XFree86 Configured"
        Screen      0  "aticonfig Screen 0" 0 0
        InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
        InputDevice    "USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
#       FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
        RgbPath      "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"
        ModulePath   "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
        FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/CID"
        FontPath     "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"

#       Load  "GLcore"
        Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor
        Load  "dbe"
#       Load  "dri"
        Load  "extmod"
        Load  "glx"
        Load  "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
        Load  "speedo"
        Load  "type1"
        Load  "freetype"
        Load  "record"
        Load  "dri"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
        Option      "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Keyboard0"
        Driver      "keyboard"
        Option      "CoreKeyboard"
        Option      "XkbRules" "xfree86"
        Option      "XkbModel" "pc105"
        Option      "XkbLayout" "us"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "Serial Mouse"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "Microsoft"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
        Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
        Option      "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "PS/2 Mouse"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Protocol" "auto"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/psaux"
        Option      "Emulate3Buttons" "true"
        Option      "Emulate3Timeout" "70"
        Option      "SendCoreEvents" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
        Identifier  "USB Mouse"
        Driver      "mouse"
        Option      "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
        Option      "SendCoreEvents" "true"
        Option      "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
        Option      "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
        Option      "Buttons" "5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"

 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
 # Very conservative. May flicker.
#       VertRefresh  50.0 - 62.0 # Extreme conservative. Will flicker. TFT default.
        #  Default modes distilled from
        #      "VESA and Industry Standards and Guide for Computer Display Monitor
        #       Timing", version 1.0, revision 0.8, adopted September 17, 1998.
        #  $XFree86: xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/etc/vesamodes,v 1.4 1999/11/18 16:52:17 tsi Exp $
        # 640x350 @ 85Hz (VESA) hsync: 37.9kHz
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        HorizSync    28.0 - 96.0
        VertRefresh  50.0 - 75.0
        ModeLine     "640x350" 31.5 640 672 736 832 350 382 385 445 +hsync -vsync
        ModeLine     "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "720x400" 35.5 720 756 828 936 400 401 404 446 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "640x480" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -hsync -vsync
        ModeLine     "640x480" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -hsync -vsync
        ModeLine     "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -hsync -vsync
        ModeLine     "640x480" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -hsync -vsync
        ModeLine     "800x600" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "800x600" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "800x600" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "800x600" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "800x600" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1024x768" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync +vsync interlace
        ModeLine     "1024x768" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
        ModeLine     "1024x768" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
        ModeLine     "1024x768" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1024x768" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1152x864" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1280x960" 108.0 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1280x960" 148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 960 961 964 1011 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1280x1024" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1280x1024" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1600x1200" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1600x1200" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1600x1200" 189.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1600x1200" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1792x1344" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448 1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1792x1344" 261.0 1792 1888 2104 2456 1344 1345 1348 1417 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1856x1392" 218.3 1856 1952 2176 2528 1392 1393 1396 1439 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1856x1392" 288.0 1856 1984 2208 2560 1392 1393 1396 1500 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1920x1440" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1920x1440" 297.0 1920 2064 2288 2640 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1800x1440" 230.0 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1800x1440" 250.0 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "640x480" 43.2 640 680 744 848 480 481 484 509 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "768x576" 35.0 768 792 872 976 576 577 580 597 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "768x576" 42.9 768 800 880 992 576 577 580 601 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "768x576" 45.5 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 602 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "768x576" 51.8 768 808 888 1008 576 577 580 605 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "768x576" 62.6 768 816 896 1024 576 577 580 611 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "800x600" 68.2 800 848 936 1072 600 601 604 636 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1024x768" 113.3 1024 1096 1208 1392 768 769 772 814 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1152x864" 81.6 1152 1216 1336 1520 864 865 868 895 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1152x864" 119.7 1152 1224 1352 1552 864 865 868 907 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1152x864" 143.5 1152 1232 1360 1568 864 865 868 915 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1280x960" 124.5 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1001 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1280x960" 129.9 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1280x960" 179.0 1280 1376 1520 1760 960 961 964 1017 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1280x1024" 191.0 1280 1376 1520 1760 1024 1025 1028 1085 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1400x1050" 122.6 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1400x1050" 149.3 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1094 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1400x1050" 155.8 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1400x1050" 179.3 1400 1504 1656 1912 1050 1051 1054 1103 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1400x1050" 214.4 1400 1512 1664 1928 1050 1051 1054 1112 -hsync +vsync
        ModeLine     "1600x1200" 280.6 1600 1728 1904 2208 1200 1201 1204 1271 -hsync +vsync
        Option      "DPMS" "true"
#       HorizSync    28.0 - 78.0 # Warning: This may fry very old Monitors
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "aticonfig Monitor 0"
EndSection

Section "Device"

        ### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
        #Option     "sw_cursor"
        #Option     "hw_cursor"
        #Option     "NoAccel"
        #Option     "ShowCache"
        #Option     "ShadowFB"
        #Option     "UseFBDev"
        #Option     "Rotate"
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
#       BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
        Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "nvidia"
        VendorName  "All"
        BoardName   "All"
EndSection

Section "Device"
        Identifier  "ATI Graphics Adapter 0"
        Driver      "fglrx"
        BusID       "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "Screen0"
        Device     "Card0"
        Monitor    "Monitor0"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     1
                Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     4
                Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     8
                Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     15
                Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     16
                Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     24
                Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
        SubSection "Display"
                Depth     32
                Modes    "800x600" "640x480"
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Screen"
        Identifier "aticonfig Screen 0"
        Device     "ATI Graphics Adapter 0"
        Monitor    "aticonfig Monitor 0"
        DefaultDepth     24
        SubSection "Display"
                Viewport   0 0
                Depth     24
        EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
        Mode         0666
EndSection

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