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Correct, /myth/video for videos I have recorded and not live TV recordings.

/myth/video is for OTHER "videos" that you may have recorded yourself

Also, since I can't see anything but TV when I run mythfrontend on the backend, how do I update my videos in /myth/video?

If I go to Utilities/Setup, the only option is Setup. Period. NoVideo manager, no audio manager, nothing...just setup. All I can do is setup TV settings, that's it.

Ok, apparently no one seems to get it...I CAN ONLY SEE TV ON MYTH FRONTEND when running it on the backend. If I go to Utilities/Setup, the only option is Setup. Period. NoVideo manager, no audio manager, nothing...just setup. All I can do is setup TV settings, that's it.

I have tried every which way I can to get a mount to work on the diskless FE. I go to the console and type "mount 192.168.0.25:/myth/video /mnt" and I get errors. The backend is saying "Permission Denied". If I try and run "mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.25/myth /mnt" I get an error about smbmount needing to be setuid root.

Again, this was alll installed from the latest iso download.

Have you tried running mythfrontend on your backend machine? Does that give you access to the mythvideo menu choices?

So I tried apt-get install...

Author:	haarvik [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:57 pm ]
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Ok, let's tryagain. No videos on diskless FE. Can't NFS mount...says permission denied, yet loads FE just fine(go figure). Can't smb mount because of setuid(which you can't do). Running mythfrontend on backend has only TV, nothing else. So, what's the fix Einstein?

Author:	cecil [ Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:51 pm ]
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Not related to installation. Normally, I'd simply delete such posts... The diskless frontend does work. It may not support every single feature you want, but it works. I highly suggest you tune your wise guy attitude if you are seeking help. You also have options, you don't have to use KnoppMyth and you don't have to use my forum.

Author:	haarvik [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:04 am ]
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Ok, here are the DFE issues: No audio for TV. Don't know about video's(can't mount dir) during boot it loads sound modules for my card. Can't map to /myth/video on backend Only shows TV running frontend on backend. When booting from CD it works. Stock configuration out of the box with the exception of a /etc/modprobe.d/bttv file for my card/tuner options. prep-ts used for DFE. No firewalls. Why don't you include uShare from Geexbox? I tried to apt-get it but get all sorts of errors relating to xlibs....not sure why. This would solve any mount issues. Also, a suggestion relating to this. Why not allow directory/network browsing? Solve a lot of issues. Somethinglike smb4k or linneighborhood.

Author:	ceenvee703 [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:52 am ]
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Just to confirm: you do realize that /myth/video does NOT contain recordings that MythTV makes, right? Those recordings (as opposed to "videos") go into /myth/tv. When you install a disk-based front end, you are able to view and manage recordings made by MythTV that live on the backend(s). You are NOT, however, automatically connected to /myth/video on the backend. That's when you need to mount shares, configure the MythVideo plugin to look at the right mount point, scan for videos, etc. So I just want to make sure that when you say "video" you're talking about "videos" as defined above, or "recordings" as defined above.

Author:	haarvik [ Mon May 01, 2006 8:59 am ]
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Correct, /myth/video for videos I have recorded and not live TV recordings. Also, since I can't see anything but TV when I run mythfrontend on the backend, how do I update my videos in /myth/video?

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Author:	ceenvee703 [ Mon May 01, 2006 10:01 am ]
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haarvik wrote: Correct, /myth/video for videos I have recorded and not live TV recordings. OK, unfortunately you're potentially confusing the issue again. There are two types of "recordings." There are scheduled recordings--ones you set up ahead of time--and there are the on-the-fly recordings that are made and viewed after you pick "Watch LiveTV." Both scheduled recordings and (I think) anything you choose to keep while watching LiveTV gets put into /myth/tv and you can view them via the "Watch Recordings" menu choice. You watch them via the MythTV built-in player. I would be surprised if these recordings do not appear on a front-end install when you choose the "Watch Recordings" menu choice. You don't (or shouldn't) have to configure anything to access this menu: everything on the backend that shows up in "Watch Recordings" should appear on the frontend as well. That's the way it's always worked with my disk-based frontends (and for that matter with my diskless frontends, like the MediaMVP you mentioned in another thread, and my Roku HD1000). /myth/video is for OTHER "videos" that you may have recorded yourself, you may have transcoded, you may have picked up from here and there. AVIs, MOVs, DivX, Xvid, MPEG4, etc. etc. etc. These are the ones that require you to set up a network share on your backend, mount that share on your frontend, and specify in MythVideo settings where that mount point is. That also is the way it's always worked with my disk-based frontends (the MediaMVP and Roku can't play anything but MPEG, though, so trying to play things I've put into /myth/video is moot on those systems).

Author:	haarvik [ Mon May 01, 2006 10:13 am ]
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Quote: /myth/video is for OTHER "videos" that you may have recorded yourself That is exactly the area where I am having the issue. I could care less about recording/pausing/rewinding live TV. I have hundreds of VCR tapes that make good paper weights because of this. But anyway, I fully understand what goes in /myth/video. It's those files I want to view, but can't get them mounted. Now, here is another question. I followed the example on the wikki for modifying the KNOPPIX image for boot(I hard coded the mysql.txt file). Why can't I modify my pxelinux.cfg/default file and just load the system from the /remaster dir instead of trying to decompress the KNOPPIX image? Wouldn't I then be able to specify an nfs mount using /etc/fstab? Or potentially just symlink to my backend /myth/video folder?

Author:	cecil [ Mon May 01, 2006 3:43 pm ]
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When I first looked for a uPnP software product to include, Geexbox wasn't available (or I didn't find it and believe me, I did a lot of looking).

Author:	ryanpatterson [ Mon May 01, 2006 3:55 pm ]
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haarvik wrote: Also, since I can't see anything but TV when I run mythfrontend on the backend, how do I update my videos in /myth/video? Go to utilities/setup::video manager. That will tell mythtv to scan the /myth/video directory for files.

Author:	haarvik [ Tue May 02, 2006 5:06 am ]
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Ok, apparently no one seems to get it...I CAN ONLY SEE TV ON MYTH FRONTEND when running it on the backend. If I go to Utilities/Setup, the only option is Setup. Period. NoVideo manager, no audio manager, nothing...just setup. All I can do is setup TV settings, that's it. I have tried every which way I can to get a mount to work on the diskless FE. I go to the console and type "mount 192.168.0.25:/myth/video /mnt" and I get errors. The backend is saying "Permission Denied". If I try and run "mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.25/myth /mnt" I get an error about smbmount needing to be setuid root. Again, this was alll installed from the latest iso download.

Author:	nickread [ Tue May 02, 2006 5:34 am ]
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haarvik wrote: If I go to Utilities/Setup, the only option is Setup. Period. NoVideo manager, no audio manager, nothing...just setup. All I can do is setup TV settings, that's it. Sounds to me like mythplugins isn't installed...

Author:	ryanpatterson [ Tue May 02, 2006 6:20 am ]
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haarvik wrote: Ok, apparently no one seems to get it...I CAN ONLY SEE TV ON MYTH FRONTEND when running it on the backend. If I go to Utilities/Setup, the only option is Setup. Period. NoVideo manager, no audio manager, nothing...just setup. All I can do is setup TV settings, that's it. Please be more clear. I don't understand what "only see TV" means. That is the only menu choice at all, or the only menu choice that works? Mythvideo, Mythmusic & Mythgame are listed and don't work or are not listed at all? Have you tried running mythfrontend on your backend machine? Does that give you access to the mythvideo menu choices? Quote: I have tried every which way I can to get a mount to work on the diskless FE. I go to the console and type "mount 192.168.0.25:/myth/video /mnt" and I get errors. The backend is saying "Permission Denied". If I try and run "mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.25/myth /mnt" I get an error about smbmount needing to be setuid root. Again, this was alll installed from the latest iso download. How did you setup your nfs or samba shares on the backend? Can you access the shares from any other computer? Have you tried setting up a frontend that boots off a harddrive? What you are trying to do is very advanced. It might take a few steps to reach your goal.

Author:	haarvik [ Tue May 02, 2006 6:23 am ]
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Well, that's what I thought. So I tried apt-get install mythplugins, but it doesn't install anything. It says there is no program.

Author:	haarvik [ Tue May 02, 2006 6:31 am ]
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Quote: Have you tried running mythfrontend on your backend machine? Does that give you access to the mythvideo menu choices? This is what I am saying. The ONLY option I have is for TV related. No music, no video no DVD, etc. TV viewing/settings are the only menu options. When I run the diskless FE I get all of these. Obviously I can get to the shares because the system boots from NFS. And yes, I can get to it from other systems. My samba shares are setup to allow public=yes, browseable=yes. Now I have noticed in the /etc/samba/smb.conf that there are password entries under global. Do I need to disable something so it will not ask for passwords? I'm on a private LAN behind a firewall so I don't really care about being wide open. I have a feeling this is where the main issue lies.

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Author:	ceenvee703 [ Tue May 02, 2006 6:55 am ]
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haarvik wrote: So I tried apt-get install... There are multiple warnings in multiple places here on the forum about how doing apt-get with R5B7 is a Very Bad Idea. For instance: http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9069 "Be very careful about doing apt-get install to add extra packages. The dependency cascades are kind of bad at the moment and you could roach your system." That being said, I doubt that is the cause of your problem. I would agree with Ryan that you may be one of the few people here that is trying to run a diskless frontend, other than the scaled-back apps available for hardware like MediaMVP and Roku HD1000. And even getting the MediaMVP running isn't trivial. I would also point out, however, that the main function of MythTV is its DVR capability. The things that are missing on your diskless front end are extras--very nice extras, possibly crucial extras for you, but extras nonetheless. Did you Google "diskless frontend"? The two top pages seem pretty applicable: http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/index.php/Diskless_Frontend http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/m ... ers/157838 From the last thread: "Basically, if your [sic] going diskless expect more work to set it up."