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Author:  kingtj [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:46 am ]
Post subject:  Getting Joost to play inside MythTV
I was just looking at the following info:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=438543

Interesting idea... getting wine to run the Windows version of Joost inside Linux. Has anyone actually attempted making something like this run on knoppmyth yet?

I've been playing with Joost for a while now on my Mac, and I'm pretty happy with it. It would be great if my Myth box could run it too!
Author:  rando [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:50 am ]
Post subject: 
This is the first I've heard of Joost.... sounds kinda cool. How hard is it to track down an invite? Is there anyone here who has spares they'd be willing to hand out so I could try it?

If invites are tough to come by, or they are generally only given out to "trustworthy" people then I undestand, as nobody here really knows me or could vouch much for me.......
Author:  cecil [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:15 am ]
Post subject: 
When I first heard of Joost, I signed up in hopes of seeing a Linux client... I'm still waiting. Perhaps I'll take the time to see if this is worth implementing...
Author:  lostmyshape [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 2:11 pm ]
Post subject: 
there are a couple posts on the joost forums that insist that a linux client is on the way. someone on the inside said they supposedly have a rudimentary linux client that developers are using. i wouldn't hold my breath, though. they've been promising one for over a year.

going the wine route might work. beyond that, though, it seems like joost might be tough to navigate without a mouse.
Author:  cecil [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:18 pm ]
Post subject: 
Well, I got it working...

Pros:
Nice and simply interface.
Fast video playback (I have DSL).
I've done the work for you. ;)

Cons:
Audio video issues.
To get sound working, I used 48K instead of the default 22K and 16 bits instead of 8.
I was using the 8775 nvidia drivers, but I only got a black screen with it. I have to upgrade to the 97(whatever it is), which I don't like because it won't work with my HDTV. I cannot get it to play 720p.
Must use 800x600.
You need a keyboard.

Well, it is time for me to cook. I'll post complete details later.
Author:  cecil [ Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:34 pm ]
Post subject: 
I see about making this simpler later...

At the moment, I'm not using R5F1 as I'm working on the next release. However I'd expect the below to work w/o issue on R5F1. At the moment, I'm undecided on including Joost in the next release.
as root:

1) Ensure /etc/apt/sources.list reflect stable.
2) apt-get update
3) apt-get install msttcorefonts
4) wget ftp://knoppmyth.net/wine_0.9.40~winehq0 ... 1_i386.deb
5) dpkg -i wine_0.9.40~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb
6) apt-get -f install
7) dpkg -i wine_0.9.40~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb

As mythtv
8) winecfg
Quote:
Make sure that "Windows XP appears in the dropdown on the first page at the bottom. If it doesn't, select it.
Next click on the audio tab. Make sure that only "OSS Driver" is checked. At the bottom, turn DirectSound Hardware Acceleration to "Emulated" and check the checkbox that says "Driver Emulation"
Now go into the graphics tab, and check "Emulate a virtual desktop" and enter a size of 800x600. Uncheck "Allow the window manager to control windows"

As root
Click "Apply" then "Ok"

9) mkdir /myth/wine
10) mv /home/mythtv/.wine/* /myth/wine/
11) chown -R mythtv.mythtv /myth/wine

As mythtv
12) rm -fr ~/.wine
13) ln -s /myth/wine ~/.wine

Download Joost (I've used JoostSetup-FriendsEdition-0.10.9.exe) and place in MythTV's home dir.

14) wine JoostSetup-FriendsEdition-0.10.9.exe
Follow the instructions... That is that.

To run normally...
1) cd /myth/wine/drive_c/P<tab>/J<tab>
2) wine xulrunner/tvprunner.exe application.ini

All that needs to be done is script it up and place it in the menu... You can do that right? ;)
Author:  kingtj [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:03 am ]
Post subject:  Joost invites
No, the invites can be sent out by anyone who already has a valid Joost account. The client has an option right on its menu to send out a new invitation.

I'd do it for you right now, except I'm at work - and Joost refuses to run through most corporate firewalls (including ours). I have to use it at home.


rando wrote:
This is the first I've heard of Joost.... sounds kinda cool. How hard is it to track down an invite? Is there anyone here who has spares they'd be willing to hand out so I could try it?

If invites are tough to come by, or they are generally only given out to "trustworthy" people then I undestand, as nobody here really knows me or could vouch much for me.......
Author:  rando [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:43 am ]
Post subject: 
That would be fantastic, I do appreciate that.

It's probably worth asking beforehand, but is Joost good? Do you like it? I suppose I'll play around with it either way and see how I feel about it.

What do you need from me? I suppose probably an email address is what it's going to ask you to put in. Anything else it's going to ask for?
Author:  kingtj [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:08 am ]
Post subject:  Joost?
Yeah, all I need is a valid email address so it can email you the link to the invite.

I think it's very good, except it needs more content. Since it's still in beta, they said the content is going to be a little bit lacking right now. It seems to basically run using a bittorrent type design, where you help redistribute packets of data to other viewers while you watch a program - so it will chew up a big chunk of your bandwidth while you're using it.

Like cecil already said, it seems to only run in 4:3 aspect ratio right now, and doesn't try to support HDTV resolutions or anything like that. But within those limitations, it gives a pretty fluid, full-screen picture and sound quality that's on par with broadcast TV.

On the Apple Mac version of Joost, they support Apple's IR remote control natively, which is really nice.

Joost inserts little 10 second long commercial breaks in the content, every so often, but it's not TOO intrusive or annoying (at least, at this point in time). They carry such channels as "Transformers TV", "Guinness Book of World Records TV", various offerings from Comedy Central, some Sports Illustrated Swimsuit model stuff, a Reuters technology news weekly update, and even one of the "reality TV" shows off MTV. They've been showing the "Clockstoppers" movie from Paramount Pictures too. I guess that indicates they may be trying to contract with Paramount to feature other movies of theirs in a random rotation.


rando wrote:
That would be fantastic, I do appreciate that.

It's probably worth asking beforehand, but is Joost good? Do you like it? I suppose I'll play around with it either way and see how I feel about it.

What do you need from me? I suppose probably an email address is what it's going to ask you to put in. Anything else it's going to ask for?
Author:  rando [ Wed Jul 25, 2007 9:36 am ]
Post subject: 
Sounds pretty cool!
Author:  MMD [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  need Invites?
i can send out some invites if ya hit me with yer email addy via private message on here....

Joost is definitely cool!
Author:  cecil [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:14 pm ]
Post subject: 
Have those asking about invites read the link to the How-to? It does provide a link so you can invite yourself...
Author:  MMD [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:15 pm ]
Post subject:  Dependancies errors
Is there a way to upgrade the dependacies?
I tried apt-get install, but it said that the files were already the newest versions...


root@mythtv:/home/rokrep69# dpkg -i wine_0.9.40~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package wine.
(Reading database ... 83365 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking wine (from wine_0.9.40~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of wine:
wine depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.2-20070516); however:
Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.1.1-21.
wine depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.2-20070516); however:
Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.1.1-21.
dpkg: error processing wine (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
wine
root@mythtv:/home/rokrep69#
Author:  cecil [ Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:16 pm ]
Post subject: 
What step comes after 5? Which release are you running?
Author:  MMD [ Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:43 pm ]
Post subject:  R5F1 fresh install
R5F1 fresh install...

Step 6 gives me the following:

root@mythtv:/home/rokrep69# dpkg -i wine_0.9.40~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb
(Reading database ... 83900 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace wine 0.9.40~winehq0~debian~4.0-1 (using wine_0.9.40~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement wine ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of wine:
wine depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.2-20070516); however:
Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.1.1-21.
wine depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.2-20070516); however:
Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.1.1-21.
dpkg: error processing wine (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
wine
root@mythtv:/home/rokrep69# apt-get -f install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
wine
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 201 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B of archives.
After unpacking 47.5MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
(Reading database ... 83900 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing wine ...
root@mythtv:/home/rokrep69#

Step 7 shows this:

root@mythtv:/home/rokrep69# dpkg -i wine_0.9.40~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb
Selecting previously deselected package wine.
(Reading database ... 83365 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking wine (from wine_0.9.40~winehq0~debian~4.0-1_i386.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of wine:
wine depends on libgcc1 (>= 1:4.2-20070516); however:
Version of libgcc1 on system is 1:4.1.1-21.
wine depends on libstdc++6 (>= 4.2-20070516); however:
Version of libstdc++6 on system is 4.1.1-21.
dpkg: error processing wine (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
wine

It seems wine is somewhat installed, but doesn't work properly.

there is no .wine/dosdevices file for one thing...

I'm new to wine, I would really like to see Joost run side by side with Knoppmyth.

I recently told the cable company off, so its IPTV or nothing since i can't put up a dish. :(
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