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beamland
PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:52 am 
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Hello everyone

Tried to find a solution in the mythtv and lirc archives as well as in the forums but nothing really helped me. Maybe I just didn't find it?

I have a backend with 2 capture cards (1 PVR350, 1 PVR250). Both came with the grey remote. Now I setup a frontend only box without any capture card. Everything works fine, even PIP (using ivtv-0.1.10-pre2-ck100z), except that I can't get the grey hauppauge remote to work with a homebrew ir receiver using the lirc_serial driver.

I managed to load the lirc driver correctly (recompiled lirc-0.7.0pre4 in /usr/src/lirc-0.7.0pre4) and when doing some tests with mode2 I can see some signals being captured on the console.

But when trying to use irw or irrecord it doesn't recognize anything and after 10 seconds irrecord exists. Thus I'm unable to use any of my 2 grey hauppauge remotes with lirc_serial.

lsmod gives me:
Code:
Module                  Size  Used by    Tainted: P
input                   3200   0  (autoclean)
lirc_i2c                4448   0  (autoclean) (unused)
saa7127                 8132   0  (autoclean) (unused)
nvidia               4586252   6  (autoclean)
tveeprom                6016   0  (autoclean) (unused)
apm                     9544   1  (autoclean)
ivtv                  773888   2  (autoclean)
msp3400                20224   2  (autoclean)
saa7115                 7776   0  (autoclean) (unused)
tuner                  12712   2  (autoclean)
i2c-algo-bit            7048   2  (autoclean) [ivtv]
i2c-core               12452   0  (autoclean) [lirc_i2c saa7127 tveeprom msp3400 saa7115 tuner i2c-algo-bit]
videodev                6016  14  (autoclean) [ivtv]
nfsd                   66576   8  (autoclean)
lockd                  46512   1  (autoclean) [nfsd]
sunrpc                 68480   1  (autoclean) [nfsd lockd]
lirc_serial             7296   1
lirc_dev                8592   2  [lirc_i2c lirc_serial]
serial                 44708   0  (autoclean)
autofs4                 9332   0  (unused)
af_packet              14632   0  (unused)
snd-mixer-oss          12248   0
snd-intel8x0           18924   0
snd-ac97-codec         49328   0  [snd-intel8x0]
gameport                1356   0  [snd-intel8x0]
snd-pcm                56132   0  [snd-intel8x0]
snd-timer              14660   0  [snd-pcm]
snd-mpu401-uart         3328   0  [snd-intel8x0]
snd-rawmidi            13504   0  [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device          3792   0  [snd-rawmidi]
snd                    31940   0  [snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-ac97-codec snd-pcm snd-timer snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
snd-page-alloc          4812   0  [snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd]
soundcore               3524   1  [snd]
agpgart                42852   3
forcedeth               9292   1
usb-ohci               19048   0  (unused)
usbcore                59980   0  [usb-ohci]
rtc                     7432   0
ext3                   65604   2
jbd                    47952   2  [ext3]


cat /var/log/lircd gives (more lines inside from previous days but really none with any error or warnings):
Code:
Sep 12 10:51:59 mythtvmbe lircd 0.7.0pre4: lircd(serial) ready
Sep 12 10:52:11 mythtvmbe lircd 0.7.0pre4: accepted new client on /dev/lircd


I know irrecord (and my homebrew ir serial receiver) works correctly, because when taking one of my non-hauppauge remotes it recognizes its ir signals without a problem.

Anyone came across this issue already and willing to share its solution? Or is the grey hauppauge remote simply not built for lirc_serial?

Thanks a lot!


Last edited by beamland on Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:11 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Xsecrets
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 9:59 am 
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hauppage remotes use a special signal type R35 or something like that. It is in the mythtv docs, and has been discussed on this board before too, now the only way I've heard it discussed is trying to use a different remote with the hauppage receiver, but I would imagine any receiver would have to accept that type of input to work with the remote since the opposite is true, however I know VERY little about ir.

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beamland
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 12:20 pm 
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uups... I'm sorry, wanted to say that not irw works but mode2! Messed things up. Corrected that in my own post above. So my question is now: what do I have to do to get irw and then irrecord to recognize my hauppauge remote commands? Tests with other non-hauppauge remotes work... but I'd like to use one of my hauppauge remotes.
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cesman
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 14, 2004 1:54 pm 
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What X is trying to say is that due to the protocol the remote uses, you may not be anble to use with a serial receiver. He's probably right, usually is...

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The haupauge remote works great with the homebrew IR reciever.. i would go through my STEP-by-step procedure, and either re-do it, or see what step you missed. i have used that copy and paste walkthrough 2 times on knopmyth systems before i posted it. it works. Its in the howto section.
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I wouldn't give up based on what I said though. like I said I know absolutely nothing about ir, just a speculation that problems one direction might present themselves in the other, however it could all be a driver thing.

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beamland
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Thanks all, I really appreciate you're telling me that it should work. Now, gr8nash, I suppose you mean the LIRCHowTo on the wiki pages (http://knoppmythwiki.homelinux.org/inde ... =LIRCHowTo)?

Ok, I re-tried it once again...

Was already done:
- installed kernel sources
- make oldconfig
- make dep
- unpacked lirc-0.7.0pre4.tar.bz2 in /usr/src
- cd /usr/src/lirc-0.7.0pre4

Then did this (as root):
- cat /proc/tty/driver/serial to find out port and irq of ttyS0
- ./setup.sh
- have choosen home-brew and set io = 03f8 / irq = 4 in driver config
- have selected "Compile tools for X-Windows" in Software config
- saved config & run configure, then did "make" and "make install"
- have commented out "serial" in /etc/modules
- have changed /etc/modutils/lirc to reflect lirc_serial instead of lirc_i2c
- ran update-modules and depmod -a
- edited /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh and added these lines at the end:
Code:
<snip>
setserial /dev/ttyS0 uart none
modprobe lirc_serial
#/usr/local/sbin/lircd  --> commented out because lircd was already started (as a simple "ps ax | grep lirc" showed me)
/usr/local/sbin/lircmd
</snip>

- rebooted

As said before, when testing with mode2, lirc seems to recognize my hauppauge remote signals but still not irw and not irrecord.

So I tried it a second time. The one and only difference: besides having selected "Compile tools for X-Windows" in software config I also selected "Enable dynamic codes" there!

And guess what? It works now! Maybe you want to put this one into the LIRCHowTo?

However, the default lirc.conf file installed by knoppmyth did not work... I had to irrecord a new lirc.conf. Well, anyway, here's my lirc.conf for grey hauppauge remote working with lirc_serial:
Code:
begin remote

  name  myremote.conf
  bits           13
  flags RC5|CONST_LENGTH
  eps            30
  aeps          100

  one           925   849
  zero          925   849
  plead         970
  gap          114301
  toggle_bit      2


      begin codes
          OFF                      0x00000000000017FD
          GO                       0x00000000000017FB
          1                        0x00000000000017C1
          2                        0x00000000000017C2
          3                        0x00000000000017C3
          4                        0x00000000000017C4
          5                        0x00000000000017C5
          6                        0x00000000000017C6
          7                        0x00000000000017C7
          8                        0x00000000000017C8
          9                        0x00000000000017C9
          0                        0x00000000000017C0
          BACK/EXIT                0x00000000000017DF
          MENU                     0x00000000000017CD
          CH+                      0x00000000000017E0
          OK                       0x00000000000017E5
          CH-                      0x00000000000017E1
          VOL-                     0x00000000000017D1
          VOL+                     0x00000000000017D0
          RED                      0x00000000000017CB
          GREEN                    0x00000000000017EE
          YELLOW                   0x00000000000017F8
          BLUE                     0x00000000000017E9
          MUTE                     0x00000000000017CF
          BLANK                    0x00000000000017CC
          FULL                     0x00000000000017FC
          REW                      0x00000000000017F2
          PLAY                     0x00000000000017F5
          FFW                      0x00000000000017F4
          RECORD                   0x00000000000017F7
          STOP                     0x00000000000017F6
          PAUSE                    0x00000000000017F0
          REPLAY                   0x00000000000017E4
          SKIP                     0x00000000000017DE
      end codes

end remote

Hope this helps someone else coming across the same questions/issues...

Thanks
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Thanks all, I really appreciate you're telling me that it should work.

you tell me, what im suppose to say, when i have done 4 times now what you did, NEVER had a problem.. using the SAME hardware. Should we NOT respond to your post.. As an IT man for many years, When im stuck it is VERY helpful for someone to tell me.. "It does work, ive done it", even if thats all they can tell me. Then at least you know.. 1) if he did it so can I. 2) Im not trying to do somthing that cant be done (ie using a remote that WONT work with the receiver). So despite your ungrateful attidute all of us were helping. :shock:

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Thanks all, I really appreciate you're telling me that it should work. Now, gr8nash, I suppose you mean the LIRCHowTo on the wiki pages (http://knoppmythwiki.homelinux.org/inde ... =LIRCHowTo)?


some helpful person put then walkthrough i did, on the wiki.. its also in our howto section.

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So I tried it a second time. The one and only difference: besides having selected "Compile tools for X-Windows" in software config I also selected "Enable dynamic codes" there!

And guess what? It works now! Maybe you want to put this one into the LIRCHowTo?


Well i would, however i never had to do that, and im not sure what it does.. But i am very glad it worked for you.

:)
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:o :? :oops:
gr8nash wrote:
you tell me, what im suppose to say, when i have done 4 times now what you did, NEVER had a problem.. using the SAME hardware. Should we NOT respond to your post.. As an IT man for many years, When im stuck it is VERY helpful for someone to tell me.. "It does work, ive done it", even if thats all they can tell me. Then at least you know.. 1) if he did it so can I. 2) Im not trying to do somthing that cant be done (ie using a remote that WONT work with the receiver). So despite your ungrateful attidute all of us were helping. :shock:

It seems that my english knowledge wasn't good and clear enough to explain in my words what I wanted to say: "thanks for your help!". So please apologize if it looked like I was ungrateful... I really didn't want to criticize your (and others) help in any way!

I read again my own post and I still don't see the "ungrateful parts" of it. What's wrong with it when saying "... I really appreciate you're telling me that it should work."? Maybe I'm just blind? Maybe I just don't understand what my wording means to others?
gr8nash wrote:
Well i would, however i never had to do that, and im not sure what it does.. But i am very glad it worked for you.

Well, I'll give it one more try to re-compile and install lirc-0.7.0pre4 without the "Enable dynamic codes"... just to see if it still works. if yes, then I'll be a person who solved a problem without knowing what was wrong before.
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beamland wrote:
Well, I'll give it one more try to re-compile and install lirc-0.7.0pre4 without the "Enable dynamic codes"... just to see if it still works. if yes, then I'll be a person who solved a problem without knowing what was wrong before.

A bit late but anyway... just wanted to know it and thought others might be interested in the results:

In short: I got lirc to work even without having to enable this "Enalbe dynamic codes" option during ./setup.sh of lirc. What I did to check it (hope this was the right way)?
Code:
cd /usr/src/lirc-0.7.0pre4
make clean
./setup.sh
make
make install
shutdown -r now

Apologies to everyone for this thread... :oops: it seems that despite my many attempts to get lirc to work with lirc_serial and my home-brew ir receiver (following more than once the excellent lirc howto in the wiki) I always must have missed something really obvious... but don't know what!

So just forget this thread, go over to the wiki lirc howto (http://knoppmythwiki.homelinux.org/index.php?page=LIRCHowTo) and you should be done.

BTW: I really love MythTV and especially KnoppMyth. Two projects with great people and a great community are doing an excellent work here :!: Keep it going on... looking forward to R5...[/url]
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the thing about posting in a forum, is that while you know what you meant by "thanks for saying it should work" we cant tell if that sarcastic or meaningful. So you have to be careful how you word stuff. And we need to extend the benefit of the doubt to people posting. No harm done, glad its working now. :)
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