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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:57 pm 
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Do know what your motherboard is? If so could you post that info here, there may be a fix for that particular board.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:03 am 
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bruce_s01 wrote:
Do know what your motherboard is? If so could you post that info here, there may be a fix for that particular board.

Bruce S.


## hi Bruce,

quite difficult when not disassembling the whole computer to parts..
due to my eye-quality i cannot read the texts on the chips with the mainboard in the box.
(yes, i took the lid off ;-))

the machine is a Compaq Deskpro EP/SB,
it was in a batch sale from a secondhand shop, i assume it comes from an office getting new equipment, therefore i think it is a standard machine supplied by Compaq

data showed up by bios:
intel celeron 333 Mhz
bus speed 333/66 Mhz
cache l1 32 kb
cache l2 128 kb
memory 256 Mb
chassis number 8851CCP30410
board revision 01

its sure it is an Intel chipset

quite a small bit of information, so you will not be able to help on the 'low performance' issue..?

thanks,
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2007 5:52 am 
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I tried googling for info, but apparently my google-fu is weak, sorry.
I assume it's one of those small desktop machines, after fitting the capture cards do you have a spare PCI slot? If you do, it might be worthwhile picking up a PCI network card and trying that out.
I think a Celeron 333 is a bit marginal, but supposedly there are people who seemed have got a lot out of a low spec machine.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 3:48 am 
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bruce_s01 wrote:
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I think a Celeron 333 is a bit marginal, but supposedly there are people who seemed have got a lot out of a low spec machine.

Bruce S.


## hi all,

some news from the old-machine front:
have 'upgraded' to a similar compaq board, now with a 500 Mhz P3 processor, and 384 Mb ram.
the videocard in this system appears to be a Matrox MGA G200A (=8 Mb) card.
there is the DVB-s Technisat Skystar 2 card, connected to an universal LNB.
for now, the machine is *not* connected to the network, may not be a problem as broadcast lists cannot be downloaded for Astra 19.2

i reinstalled KnoppMyth E50 again.
after scanning:

when i go to 'watch tv' i get sound (apparently the tv-channel) but a blue screen without information.

when i go to 'media library', and from there to 'watch recordings', i get a screen 'select a recording to watch', with preselected 'all programs'.
in the right column 2 specimen of 'unknown' are listed, the top one is preselected, AND
in the right bottom corner of that menu-screen, a PIP screen is playing the actual(?) tv-program...
there are no dropouts in that PIP, but no sound either...

when i press 'enter' in this situation, i get the blue screen again, AND sound, without dropouts (afaik)....

is this a problem of the videocard not being able to play the tv program in full screen?
(strange, because the slightly older setup had a Matrox 4 Mb video card, and was playing full-screen (with frequent dropouts)..

is there some other setting wrong (inhibiting full screen to appear)??

thanks for your input,

rob


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 4:43 am 
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knopprob wrote:

some news from the old-machine front:



## some super-fresh additions:
changed the 8 Mb Matrox for the 4 Mb Matrox MGA G100a card (agp too) from the first machine..
now i can display the piece of tv-program KM has recorded this morning.
it is fullscreen (14 inch CRT monitor), and there is sound..
but there are dropouts again.....

can i assume the dropouts are in the displaying of the recording only, or were they made in the process of recording?? (could probably test in burning a recording to cd, and playing this in a standalone or other (heavier) computer...

is there a way to make the -on the monitor displayed screen- smaller, to get rid of the dropouts?
or is it a processor/mem problem?
or a video card problem?

thanks

rob


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So you have a real picture in the preview window of the recordings list, but not when watching full screen? That's good news. Your DVB card is working. No sound here is normal.

As for your blue screen when watching full screen, I've never seen this. The only blue screens I have seen are when there was a tuning problem. However, if there was a tuning problem, there would be no preview picture.

A couple of things to try:

When the blue screen is displayed, press M. Does the menu appear? Can you go into the program guide and change channels? If so, the display is working and something is wrong with the playback.... you might check the logs in /var/log to see if anything interesting is coming out.

You might also try looking over the display settings in both general and watch TV. There are some settings where TV can have a different display mode then mythtv. This might be causing problems.

As for the EPG, if you select use EIT in the setup (same window that has the scan for channels option), the guide info will be populated automatically, even without a network. It may take a while to initially populate (15-20 minutes sitting idle).

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2007 5:12 am 
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The dropouts are probably in the playback phase. It is much more CPU intensive then the recording phase.

I suspect the 533Mhz P3 just isn't fast enough to do the decoding for watching TV. See http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=CPUs

Since DVB is already encoded, you can't lower the capture quality. However, you might try transcoding to a lower quality. This might result in something that can be played without dropouts.

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