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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 2:57 pm 
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Sorry, I'm not here to coddle anyone. I have a general displeasure toward Microsoft and thier products. Really, it does no good to say something works w/ Windows but not Linux.

2. touch .configure (ar the user mythtv) and restart FVWM.
3. Perhaps a search of the forum. :P
4. XvMC helps to offload the processor by having the video card "handle" MPEG-2 playback. Only useful for MPEG-2 (PVR-x50) streams and nVidia based cards that supports XvMC.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:16 pm 
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"I have a general displeasure toward Microsoft and thier products".
So do I, that's why I want to use this product and not Beyond TV. I'm trying to migrate everything off Windows and onto OS X/Linux that I can.

"Really, it does no good to say something works w/ Windows but not Linux"
That's not what I said, I actually never said it didn't work with Linux just that I wanted help configuring. The windows bit was to indicate that I had to go through several of my systems to find one where the hardware would not conflict. With all the PC based hardware conflicts out there, I would say that installing the capture board and testing it out on Windows should be a first step. If you can't get the hadrware to work together in Windows with vendor supplied drivers, I don't think you will be able to get it to work in Linux. Thus wasting everyone's time by saying "I can't get MythTV to work" when its really a system hardware problem/conflict and nothing to do with MythTV

" XvMC helps to offload the processor ..."
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:24 pm 
Dude,
word of advice, please don't argue with cesman, cecil, or any of the senior knoppmyth developers. (thats not me by the way, I am just a user)

Just accept what they say as gospel, 'cause it basically it is.

Anyhow just forget that. Moving on. Where were we?

Post the dmesg output so we can see you PVR-250 model.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:31 pm 
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lynchaj wrote:
...word of advice, please don't argue...


Sorry, didn't mean to be argue, just was trying to explain why I did what I did.

I want to start over again with new hardware that matches (as best I can) the tier 1 stuff. Thus I won't have the dmesg output till tomorrow sometime (I need to build a new system from all the components I got today).


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:11 pm 
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As someone who's reinstalled repeatedly, I'd agree that you shouldn't be afraid to just "nuke the site from orbit" and start over from scratch. It's good practice and all the little snags will be second nature to you after a while.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:21 pm 
ceenvee703 wrote:
As someone who's reinstalled repeatedly, I'd agree that you shouldn't be afraid to just "nuke the site from orbit" and start over from scratch. It's good practice and all the little snags will be second nature to you after a while.


Hear Hear, Good advice. I practice this regularly. ;-)

Just take good notes everytime and you will find reinstalling starts to take less and less time. Notes help with the more hairy stuff.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:37 pm 
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I have written a script that I run after an auto install which I keep on a memory stick with everyting extra that needs to be installed to sort out all of snags. At this stage it takes about 4 hours to run (build the 2.6 kernel, mythtv mplayer, imagemagik, mythburn etc, setup channels in the database, configure nvtv and a heap of other stuff).

It gives me great confidence that if I ever hose my system by doing something stupid, I can always reproduce the install exactly how I want it with a few keysrokes (and a few hours).


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:24 pm 
Greg Frost wrote:
I have written a script that I run after an auto install which I keep on a memory stick with everyting extra that needs to be installed to sort out all of snags. At this stage it takes about 4 hours to run (build the 2.6 kernel, mythtv mplayer, imagemagik, mythburn etc, setup channels in the database, configure nvtv and a heap of other stuff).

It gives me great confidence that if I ever hose my system by doing something stupid, I can always reproduce the install exactly how I want it with a few keysrokes (and a few hours).



Man, that is a fabulous idea. Any chance of getting that put into KnoppMyth for us mere mortals? My configuration is so complex now that when it dies, I about break down and cry because I know it is going to be a long while before its working again.

NVidia, 2 PVR-250 (different models old & new mix), LVM, samba, etc, etc.
Not to mention profiles, transcoders, tuning sources, etc

It gets to be a big job. A recording script would be awesome.

How about posting an example?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:46 pm 
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I don't see anything like this going into knoppmyth, as it's too specific, but not a bad idea for someone with the skills. Also you could create and image of the drive just after a good install, and then restoring should be a snap.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:00 pm 
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I have often thought that it would be good if the knoppmyth auto install automatically tried to mount a USB drive and ran /mnt/stick/knoppmyth_r4v5_post_install (or something like this) so that peoples post installation tweaks could be put in like that. Then people's tier2 posts could just show the script.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:13 pm 
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Great that you always thought that and have a script to handle that... It would have been nice it you had said something about it. I'm NOT above expecting help/suggestion for KnoppMyth. I do believe I've stated this all along. While I have ideas about what will and won't be included in KnoppMyth. If you approach me with specifics I'll listen.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:33 pm 
<puts on asbestos underwear>

How about including nuv2avi utility in the next distribution?

:-)

<grabs hat and runs for the door>

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PS, just kidding....


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:21 pm 
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cesman wrote:
Great that you always thought that and have a script to handle that... It would have been nice it you had said something about it. I'm NOT above expecting help/suggestion for KnoppMyth. I do believe I've stated this all along. While I have ideas about what will and won't be included in KnoppMyth. If you approach me with specifics I'll listen.


Sorry cesman, I didn't want to go off half cocked and suggest dumb things without researching a bit first. I still havent got around to checking where the knoppmyth install does any hardware detection and hardware specific installation. I posted my original script for my system when I had a bttv card in the tier2 section and it drew precisely 0 comments. The script I have now does a lot (including upgrading the kernel and associated stuff to make the new kernel work for my DVICO FusionHDTV DVB-T card, as well as installing mythburn), but a lot of it as Xsecrets said is too specific to be of general use. It is also a bit different because my box is not networked, so I install everyting from source tarballs rather than apt-get.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:17 am 
Greg,

IMO the general idea of a custom configuration script is a solid one. I don't think it'd have to every possible combination but it just would record my ivtv module configs, channel settings, tuner sources, samba config, etc that would really save time in a rebuild.

At least toss it out there (again) and see if anyone can build on it.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:26 am 
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Well I just finished building my new box with the cheap, but tier 1 parts I bought yesterday and I'm now installing it. The only problem is that I was unable to use the GeForce4 card I bought.... its PCI. I decided to use an old ATI Rage card and hope it works, I only want vga out of this box (as I plan on using remotes front ends to watch "tv"). If not, I will run out to a computer show that's in town and buy an GeForce AGP card. I guess I should have wondered why the video card was only $20 :(

I'll let you know how it goes

CRAPPP!!!!! New hardware and now I get that it could not find the LAN card, nor did the mixer work, nor does anything start....

I have no way of getting to the machine so I can only manually type in dmesg results:

>It found the CPU and hard drives OK
>found USB OK
>driver i2c TV tuner driver registered: Found ab iTVC16 based chip
>tuner type set to 2

Nothing about LAN cards though. Remember I asked before, this board has an onboard gigabit lan. Now I need to resolve the lan issue before dealing with the tuner, and without a lan I can't download drivers!

UGGGHHHH


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