What is confusing me is you. Why would I talk about the frontend in the manual installation section? I've offered my advice, suggestion and asked questions. I'm done this this thread.

Xsecrets:

Thanks. That was the kind of detailed answer I was looking for. I forgot to say that when I tried to change to the exact directory that cesman suggested to try starting mysql, that dir. did not appear to exist. Changing to root was fine. The I did cd /etc/init.d and that was fine. But when I tried to go to etc/init.d/mysql , I got an error saying the directory did not exist or something similar. It seemed to me that I was only seeing directories from the CD, that's why I asked about root partitions. So I couldn't restart mysql, because i didn't appear to even have the directory. How would this have happened, and how can I fix it, or at least prevent it the next time?

Can can recommend anything? If not, I'll start over again manually, but this is already the 4th or 5th time, so I'm wondering what good it would do to start over again from scratch, since I've already done that 4 or 5 times.

thanks again.

Shplad

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cecil:

You seem to be angry with me about this thread. I appreciate the help, but please keep in mind that not all of us are programmers, or even Linux experts. How on earth would someone who is a relative newbie to Linux and a complete newbie to Knoppmyth know in what part the frontend code is or isn't? You seem to be assuming a great deal about my knowledgebase which isn't congruent with my first post. Did I not say I was a relative Linux newbie and a complete newbie to Knoppmyth? Do most newbies understand Knoppmyth's programming architecture and where different install functions should and shouldn't be? If there is some kind of diagram of the architecture other than just something which simply outlines backend vs. frontend etcetera, please point me to it so I can learn.

Perhaps you'll just allow me to continue to work on this with others who have responded to me. Sorry if I upset you, but I thought I did outline my experience level quite clearly from square one. And I was, after all, only following reference instructions that were found on this site.

Shplad

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/etc/init.d/mysql is a file (an executable script), not a directory. That's why the cd command failed.

-brendan

I'm by no means angry. I stated what I needed to state. Whomever wants to help you can help. The only time I remove stuff from the forum is when someone posts something in the wrong place. I don't expect everyone to be a programmer, I certainly don't consider myself a programmer. I know better than to assume anything about anyone's knowledge. I write instruction that are consise and to the point. I try to make them as simple as I can. I find that people often try to read into things when learning Linux (I did this when I was a newbie...). When folks ask for help and I can respond, I respond. If I state do this, this and this and they don't but ask other questions without as much as I tried, but didn't understand can you please explain... Why should I waste my time? I spend a great deal of my personal time trying to make KnoppMyth easy. I've no time to waste on those that won't listen to my suggestions.

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When the source is open, the possibilities are endless!

I think where you are getting confused is that the pamplet is broken up according to the 1st level menu. the first level menu has options for frontend auto install auto upgrade and manual install, so there fore if you are reading in the manual install section of the pamplet it is assumed you have already chosen manual install. now what the optoions past that point look like I have no idea I've never done a manual install myself.

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Xsecrets

Xsecrets

Thanks again. Once again, a crystal clear explanation. I believe that is where I've been getting confused. I believe part of the problem is that after creating partitions on my drive, I get locked into that endless loop where I cannot quit or go back. My only choice is partition or quit, and quit doesn't work. I read the other thread on that subject, but didn't see a clear solution. (I tried the ide=reverse parameter, but it didn't help.)

Now that you clarified the directory issue, I once again attempted to start MySQL. The result was: "Error 2002: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket 'var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) "
Any idea where to go from here? Start over? Any way of avoiding the infinite loop? Is it because it's a SATA drive?

Thanks again.

Shplad

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Seasonic Super Tornado 350
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yes it's cause it's an sata drive. with pata or if your bios has the proper switches you can use autoinstall and that simplifies things greatly.

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Xsecrets

hey, that sounds familiar!



-brendan

Xsecrets:

Well, somehow, I managed to get KnoppMyth installed onto the SATA drive.
Perhaps it was moving the drive to the second SATA channel that did it. I didn't change anything else.

However, when I reboot, I get a "disk boot failure" error. Any suggestions?

Thanks

Shplad

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shplad: if you're new to this, and from your messages you say you are, I would really recommend NOT using SATA. As the installation instructions state, "Manual install is recommended only for advanced users. Currently if you have an SATA drive, you must use Manual Install."

I've been installing one version or another of MythTV, mainly KnoppMyth, over and over again, for a year now. I would definitely not consider using a SATA drive in my machine at this point. (I've got my hands full with that blasted HD3000 card...)

So save yourself a bunch of headaches and go PATA if you can.