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PostPosted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:26 am 
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hi there all
i'm a complete linux newbie and have tried the knopmyth cd yesterday for the first time. I like what it offers but had some problems allready. However before i will start takling the problems i encountered running some of the options i would like to know if there is a way if running the mythtv box (either under this distro or another) so that it boots much quicker. I have tried GeeXBox as well and while it is short on many features compare to mythtv it is booting extremly quickly once installed on the HD (well quick enogh for my wife not to nag me about getting a dvd player instead...)
so please any advice?
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If you can find a DVD player that does what MythTV can do, please let us all know, as I think most of us will go out and get one. As to the WAF (Wife Approval Factor) no matter how long it takes to start up, it will never be quick enough. :lol:

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Just leave it on 24/7!


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I have to agree with the previous post how can it do what it's designed to do (record tv) if It's not turned on. There's always the suspend to ram stuff (detailed on the wiki) if you are overly concerned with power or something like that.

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Another possible idea: Would the LinuxBIOS speed boot times
for KnoppMyth box?

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Not that I've tried it but, this maybe what you are looking for... I've thought about LinuxBIOS... If I could find a good how-to, it is something I'd investigate (been a while since I've looked). Like X stated, software suspend is there.

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linuxbios might help the problem being is if you screw up somehow loading it you are SOL and your motherboard is now just a pretty piece of plastic.

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It'd be nice if you could 'concrete' the system once you install it. Alot of the startup routines are redundant if the system is aware of your hardware already. Do we really need hardware detection routines every time we boot? Mandrake and Redhat let you turn it off. I'll admit that I'm a debian/knoppix noob and I don't fully grep how Debian handles this stuff, but it seems like the majority of the pokey boot time is the system figuring out what your box contains.


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Compiling a kernel with only the modules you really need would probably speed things up a lot.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:25 pm 
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nermander wrote:
Compiling a kernel with only the modules you really need would probably speed things up a lot.

but again, that would take either a cabbage load of time, or someone who knows linux very well.


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While the included kernel offers support for a great deal of hardware, that support is built as modules and not in the kernel.

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Maybe I'm begging to be flamed here, but what's the harm in compiling a monolithic kernel with everything mashed into it, just for Knoppmyth? Will it grow too large, be too slow, eat too much resources or what? I know the plusses, just want to know the minuses.


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Not everyone needs everything. To drop out the modules you don't want or need you simply need to edit /etc/modules and they will simply not load. Why would cesman and Dale go to all the trouble of doing a kernel compile with everything built in, when I know not everyone will like it.

Modular is better.

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cesman wrote:
While the included kernel offers support for a great deal of hardware, that support is built as modules and not in the kernel.


So how come my kernel looks for a lot of hardware I don't have?

I can see several messages during boot that say "Not found" or similar.


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that's not your kernel, that's hotplug.

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