View unanswered posts    View active topics

All times are UTC - 6 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 
Go to page Previous  1, 2

Print view Previous topic   Next topic  
Author Message
Search for:
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 7:51 pm 
Offline
Joined: Sun Jun 12, 2005 10:55 pm
Posts: 3161
Location: Warwick, RI
Hi madsholme,

Reason for that question was that I have had the pci card not be id correctly in the XF86Config-4 file, it would try to use the on board video instead.

When I have to play with the X file, I usually ssh in from a different machine as it is easier to trouble shoot then. Do a # killall gdm. You do your edits then attempt to restart the xserver (# startx ). If it dumps you back to a prompt, then read the error messages to figure out why. When it is finally running, you have to do a control + c to terminate it. At that point a # gdm should start the desktop.

Most of the time, setting the proper server to use is the first key item. Since it is a FX5200, it should be nvidia.

nano -w /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and look for a line like:
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
# Driver "i810" not this
# Driver "ati" or this
Driver "nvidia" #this should work

Each time you try to startx it re-reads this file, so make a change and retry.

Mike


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 8:04 pm 
Offline
Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:23 am
Posts: 171
Location: Denmark (PAL-B/G)
mjl wrote:
Hi madsholme,

Reason for that question was that I have had the pci card not be id correctly in the XF86Config-4 file, it would try to use the on board video instead.

When I have to play with the X file, I usually ssh in from a different machine as it is easier to trouble shoot then. Do a # killall gdm. You do your edits then attempt to restart the xserver (# startx ). If it dumps you back to a prompt, then read the error messages to figure out why. When it is finally running, you have to do a control + c to terminate it. At that point a # gdm should start the desktop.

Most of the time, setting the proper server to use is the first key item. Since it is a FX5200, it should be nvidia.

nano -w /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 and look for a line like:
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
# Driver "i810" not this
# Driver "ati" or this
Driver "nvidia" #this should work

Each time you try to startx it re-reads this file, so make a change and retry.

Mike


I am curently trying to get it to work on my backend, wich has a AGP video card.

the only way to get it to use the monitor, is to kill gdm, and do a X -configure.

but this will make Myth run realy bad.. crashes and odd behaviour..

from my xf86config file:

Code:
Identifier  "Card0"
        Driver      "nvidia"
        VendorName  "Rosewill"
        BoardName   "nVidia GeForce FX5200"
        #Option     "RenderAccel" "1"


oh and tnx for the ssh sugestion, but i already knew that.. i am not "that new" in linux.. ben running it for a year or so on my laptop (Gentoo Linux)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 9:35 pm 
Offline
Joined: Thu Mar 25, 2004 11:00 am
Posts: 9551
Location: Arlington, MA
This really shouldn't be mysterious.

We went all through this at least once and it kept coming back to "your XF86Config-4 just is not right". You are either doing something silly like telling it that the connected monitor is a TV (implying S-Video or component output) when you're connected via a SVGA or DVI connector, or you don't have any modelines that produce a signal the monitor or TV can sync up with.

I get the exact same symptom at the exact same place after almost every install or upgrade and it's no mystery. My TV simply doesn't "like" any of the provided modelines. When I replace /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 with my customized one, where the sync rates are set correctly, and I've got a vaild modelines, it works fine. There is just no way around putting the effort into getting the XF86Config-4 right. This means reading and learning enough to edit it intelligently unstead of flailing around blindly.

The only "weird" black screen problem that I'm aware of is with certain Nvidia FX6xxx based cards where it's a "very dark screen" issue which can be fixed by upgrading to the latest "8178" drivers.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 10:20 pm 
Offline
Joined: Fri Dec 02, 2005 7:23 am
Posts: 171
Location: Denmark (PAL-B/G)
tjc wrote:
This really shouldn't be mysterious.

We went all through this at least once and it kept coming back to "your XF86Config-4 just is not right". You are either doing something silly like telling it that the connected monitor is a TV (implying S-Video or component output) when you're connected via a SVGA or DVI connector, or you don't have any modelines that produce a signal the monitor or TV can sync up with.

I get the exact same symptom at the exact same place after almost every install or upgrade and it's no mystery. My TV simply doesn't "like" any of the provided modelines. When I replace /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 with my customized one, where the sync rates are set correctly, and I've got a vaild modelines, it works fine. There is just no way around putting the effort into getting the XF86Config-4 right. This means reading and learning enough to edit it intelligently unstead of flailing around blindly.

The only "weird" black screen problem that I'm aware of is with certain Nvidia FX6xxx based cards where it's a "very dark screen" issue which can be fixed by upgrading to the latest "8178" drivers.


Alright, if this isent odd then Why:

1: on first install it worked fine on my via epia board, only change i had to do, was releated to inverted colors on the screen, the monitor and tv worked fine.

2: seccond time on my via epia, i began to have all these problems, that i first encounted on my p4 computer. same tv, same monitor.

if you read what i posted, you would see that i said, it first worked fine on my via epia, where i were having problems on the mashine i wanted to use as a backend, and then seccond time, when i was giving up, and just wanted to run it all on my via epia board, i also began to have these problems.

AGAIN:

this is not a pal releated problem
this is not a xf86config problem. (unless knopmytt generates diffrent xf86config files for each system it installs on, and it dosent as far i know)

is there a way to test your cd, for errors?
like a checksum you could hold up against the iso? and see if its burned right? (tryed to burn it 4 times, 2 diffrent media types on 2 diffrent burners)

This is why this problem realy dosent make any sence to me.

Could the Bios from the motherboard have something to do with it? like if its realy old or something?

and how do you update the BIOS with out windows/dos disk?


Top
 Profile  
 

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 19 posts ] 
Go to page Previous  1, 2



All times are UTC - 6 hours




Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 11 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group

Theme Created By ceyhansuyu