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 Post subject: some advice please
PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:21 am 
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My current setup is as follows

A 1.1 celeron acting as both front and backend running 30.1, containing;

1. Aver 771 DVB-T card
2. Nova-T DVB card
3. Nvidia 64mb
4. 768 ram
4. 11 gb hd
5. 61 gb hg

I am using the TV-Out of the Nvidia card, and the remote control of the Nova card.

The box is just not stable at all. If I try to record and view another channel at the same time, it shudders and then freezes.

Some channels are not viewable in live mode at all because of all the shuddering and freezing. The only way I can watch programs on these channels is to record them, and then watch them back later.

I have both DVB cards setup for hardware encoding - and the nvidia card is running the XF86Config nvidia sample (with tweaks for region, and composite).

I dont know if I can get any more juice out of this box. Sadly, I am poorer than a church mouse with a large overdraft, so upgrading it is not an option :(

It is not all doom and gloom. I have another machine - which is currently running Ubuntu. The specs for that machine are...

1. P4 running at around 2.6
2. 512 ram

I was thinking about moving both DVB cards into the Ubuntu machine, as well as the 60gb hd and then running that as a backend, with the frontend only containing the Nvidia card, and the 11 gb hd (for the ring buffer.)

But will this make any difference? As I understand it the frontend did most of the work? and well, if both DVB cards are using hardware encoding, then will removing them make much difference?

all advice very much appreciated.

thanks,

john


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:54 am 
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Can you just ditch the 1.1 machine and have the front & backend on the P4?


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:04 am 
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If I did that though, it would mean leaving knoppmyth :(

It would also mean moving the P4 into the front room, whilst its monitor is still in the office. Could I use 1.1 connected up to the monitor in the office as a terminal services type box?

And would I still be able to use the P4 whilst TV is being watched/recorded? I guess so, but I have not tried it.

thanks for your reply!! :D


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:50 pm 
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Have you run memtest on the flakey machine? stability issues can be caused by memory problems.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 3:36 pm 
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I don't know the DVB cards you have, but are you sure they have Hardware MPEG2 codecs, becuase if they didn't this machine is well under powered for a frontend.

I have a P4 2.53GHz with two DVB-T cards and when I do PiP the little screen is slightly jerky.

I would also support the suggestion of Greg in regards to running Memtest on your computer, you can get it from http://www.memtest86.com/

You may also wish to check whether your drives are using DMA transfers, as the 11GB drive may not be fast enough. Check the settings of drive with
Code:
hdparm -I /dev/hda
where hda is the respective hard drive.

Just some random thoughts to try and help you out.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:43 pm 
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thanks for the replies guys - memtest is running.

I am not actually sure both cards do have hardware mpeg2 codecs. I thought they did, but now not so sure.... I am looking around for tech specs for them now.

I think I might have seriously under rated just how much power a frontend needs. All I could really do it chuck in another 512 ram, but I dont know how much that will make a difference.

I'll report back on those cards - if and when I find the information
:D


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 6:51 pm 
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well that is a no to the Aver 771 ....

Quote:
The DVB-T card is based around the BT878 chip which is a very
common multimedia bridge and often found on Analogue TV cards.
There is no on-board MPEG2 decoder, which means that all MPEG2
decoding must be done in software, or if you have one, on an
MPEG2 hardware decoding card or chipset.


http://www.dtvforum.info/lofiversion/index.php/t9457.html


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:15 pm 
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This dude seems to think it is: http://www.maysubdivide.org/

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Hauppauge WinTV Nova-t (Product Information) digital decoder card. Also a mpeg2 hardware encoder. Supported by the stock Breezy kernel, I have been told. We shall see… Comes with a remote, that should be straightforward to get running under Lirc, as there seems to be a number of guides online for this make.


But I have not been able to find any confirmation of this elsewhere.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:48 pm 
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The card doesnt need an encoder because it receives DVB which is already encoded in MPEG2 format. I doubt it has a decoder, and myth would not use it if it did.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 5:22 am 
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Greg Frost wrote:
The card doesnt need an encoder because it receives DVB which is already encoded in MPEG2 format. I doubt it has a decoder, and myth would not use it if it did.


So, set 'Hardware Encoding' on or not?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 6:36 am 
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On my machine neither of my Nova-T cards have hardware encoding set 'on' as I didn't think they had hardware to decode.... (See Greg Frost's post)


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