well no real worries about apt-get on a diskless frontend, but the myth packages are not in a repository, at least not the knoppmyth packages.

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Xsecrets

Are you tring to make this as hard as possible? Your answers are always very cryptic. I specfically asked about running mythfrontend on your backend and on your frontend and the differences between the two. Yet you respond with one answer:"The ONLY option I have is for TV related." I have no idea which machine your answer is for. And you insist on using abbreviations, why? Please spend the time typing out somthing like: "I don't any menu choices for Mythvideo on my backend machine" instead of: "no video".

No it is not obvious that you can get to your shares. If it was you wouldn't be asking about your samba shares requiring a password or not. That is why I asked if you could access your shares from another computer. That is an easy way to check if your /etc/samba/smb.conf file is setup correctly.

I am begining to think you are a troll, just trying to see how many people you can get to waste their time "helping you".

You know what, I posted here looking for help, not rhetoric. I answered as specifically as I could given the questions. The problem is two-fold. If you are only going to slam my posts, then don't bother responding. If I can figure out the issues, I have no problem writing a how-to for others who want this type of setup.

I will try to simplify as much as I can:

Abreviations:
FE=FrontEnd
TV=Television
NFS=Network File System
SAMBA=Part of the Server Message BLock(SMB)

BACKEND:
When I run mythfrontend, only option on the menu is TV related, that includes going into utilities/setup. It's as though all of the plugins are missing.

Diskless FE:
Cannot see any videos on my backend. NFS and Samba gives error when trying to mount. I see every plugin, even under utilities/setup. I can connect to samba shares from WinXP system, using a mythtv/mythtv network login.

I don't know how to describe it any easier.

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Backend - netfinity 5000 w/10drive external array, dual CPU, 2GB Ram.

Frontend - AMD 2800+, 1GB ram, nVidia FX 5200(256mb).

The problem is, you rubbed people the wrong why with your posts. If I didn't delete them, I'm sure you'd have heard worse.

Very true. You only have to go to the first post in this thread to see that in action...



And his latest post further muddies the waters, in my opinion.

haarvik, are you saying that, when you run mythfrontend ON THE SAME COMPUTER THAT YOU ARE RUNNING AS YOUR MYTHTV BACKEND, that you appear to have no plug-ins? If so, that is a problem that is 100% unrelated to running a diskless front end, and may indicate that you screwed up your backend's install somehow (maybe by apt-getting things on it).

Similarly, if you record something with your backend via a tuner card, are you saying that no RECORDINGS show up on the frontend? Please refer to my multiple previous posts on the distinction between a RECORDING and a VIDEO.

It is clear that no VIDEOS placed into /myth/video will show up on your diskless front end since you're unable to mount a share on your diskless front end.

In fact, I'm just now realizing something. Do you even have a tuner card on your backend? I'm starting to think you don't. I have no idea how such a system works.

Here's an example from my first specific post:



Now to me that seems pretty specific, but maybe I am missing something that you guys are seeing. It pretty much says the same as my previous post. Since that first response, I keep getting asked the same question, only phrased differently. I keep answering with the same answer. So, am I a little frustrated? You bet I am, but I keep trying. I figure sooner or later either someone will read this post and go "Oh, I know exactly what is wrong", or I will figure it out on my own.

Not trying to rub anyone the wrong way, just want it to work. Rephrasing my responses over and over isn't getting me anywhere except frustrated.

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Backend - netfinity 5000 w/10drive external array, dual CPU, 2GB Ram.

Frontend - AMD 2800+, 1GB ram, nVidia FX 5200(256mb).

Once again.

I am NOT a moron. I know the difference between what is recorded by MythTV, and what I recorded myself. I have a PVR card. How would I watch TV with no audio on my diskless frontend if I didn't?


That is EXACTLY what I am saying. It has nothing to do with apt-get. I didn't have it before, thats why I tried apt-get.

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Backend - netfinity 5000 w/10drive external array, dual CPU, 2GB Ram.

Frontend - AMD 2800+, 1GB ram, nVidia FX 5200(256mb).

The plugin menu items were always missing? They weren't there the very first time the frontend started after compleating the Knoppmyth install? If that is the case it must be a problem with the Knoppmyth installer and it deffently needs to be tracked down. Or did you do some customizing to the backend which broke the plugins? If somthing else broke the plugins and we know what it is we can try to figure out how to install it without breaking hte plugins.

So apparently samba isn't setup to ignore the password. I havn't ever connected to a samba share from linux so I'm not sure of the syntax. I assume there is a way to include the username/password in the mount command line. You have tried this? And this is what generates the error about "setuid root"? What user are you logged in as when you execute the mount command?

yes. they have never been there. I didn't notice it until I tried loading videos on my diskless frontend.


yes, there is:
mount -t smbfs -o username=mythtv,password=mythtv //192.168.0.25/myth /mnt

When I run that command I get the error. The diskless frontend does an autologin as mythtv user. I have tried sudo/su but it also give me the setuid error.

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Backend - netfinity 5000 w/10drive external array, dual CPU, 2GB Ram.

Frontend - AMD 2800+, 1GB ram, nVidia FX 5200(256mb).

Then please, at least for the sake of this discussion, stop referring to "videos" generically, and use the "videos" vs "recordings" distinction we've already discussed.

Can you record a show with your backend? Does that recording show up in the remote diskless frontend? Does it play? Leave "videos" out of it for now.

Yes and yes, but no audio.

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Backend - netfinity 5000 w/10drive external array, dual CPU, 2GB Ram.

Frontend - AMD 2800+, 1GB ram, nVidia FX 5200(256mb).

With regards to the audio problem, have you tried to play a music CD on the DFE? Could I also suggest you try alsamixer on the DFE to see that it actually recognises your audio card.

With the samba issue have you actually told the samba server on the backend to start?

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Girkers

I am going to try and relaod everything once again and see what happens.

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Backend - netfinity 5000 w/10drive external array, dual CPU, 2GB Ram.

Frontend - AMD 2800+, 1GB ram, nVidia FX 5200(256mb).

A ,make sure everything you want the DFE to do is working on the backend first.

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Girkers

Samba: Is samba running on the backend? I know on some (all?) releases it isn't by default. Setting it up is described in the Samba howto on the wiki.

Videos: You say Setup/Utilities->Video Manager is missing on the backend, did you try it on the frontend?

No Plugins on Backend: I've never done a backend only install, so I don't know if this is normal or not. If it is not normal, then it sounds like your install didn't complete. In that case, that should be fixed first.

Allen

(Hint: We're not Einsteins, and you're not a Moron. Helping often involves asking simple questions about common configuration problems. You can't expect the silver bullet answer to be the first one posted.)

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