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 Post subject: No video, just snow
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 11:36 pm 
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Hi,

The knoppmyth install went okay and configuring mythtv was clean. At least I can see the tv schedule and move around in the menu, start, stop both front and backend programs. For now, just trying to get LiveTV to work....

Runnning a 2.8GHz P4 with 1GB ram and 80GB drive with a Hauppauge PVR-150, model 1062.

Standard cable; works fine with the TV, but when I plug it into the tuner card all I see on the monitor is snow and an audio hiss. Stepping through the channels has no effect

As a newbee, I'm stumped. Unable to find any info or ideas on the myth website under trouble-shooting or faqs.

Also what selection should one pick for the type of remote device? the "silver" option or the PVR-150 option. The remote is the version designed for the MS Windows MCE PC.

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John


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 7:40 am 
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Look in the Tier 2 section for my setup. Dunno what to tell ya on the remote.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 9:03 am 
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Did you find this and follow the troubleshooting steps given? http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=BlackScreenWatchingTV don't let the "black screen" throw you as it also says
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This page IS applicable if you are only seeing "snow" or "gray fuzz".


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:00 am 
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Thanks for the responses

What is the tier 2 section?

Have been through the setup several times, but now I'll spend some time going over the log msgs.

John


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:30 am 
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On the top level forum index "Hardware Recommendations" and under that heading "Tier 2". http://mysettopbox.tv/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=9 Although frankly from a quick look I don't think his posting is going to do you much good unless you've got the same PVR card with the same model of tuner chip, and even then you could have other issues too.

You're almost certainly better off following the troubleshooting procedure I pointed you at. Your problem could be as simple as selecting the wrong frequency setting mythtv-setup. Like that page says, there is no silver bullet or one size fits all solution, because there are simply too many possible hardware combinations and ways to misconfigure the system.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 12:20 pm 
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have been through the setup several times as per the "checklist" as suggested. Still no picture just fuzz and just a hint of a norizontal and vertical frame sync edge.

Here is the log during startup:
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Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv: version 0.4.4 (tagged release) loading
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.15-chw-2 SMP preempt 586 gcc-3.3
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 150 card (cx23416 based)
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:0a.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=tveeprom, addr=50]
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=(tuner unset), addr=61]
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: cx25840 0-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (14264 bytes)
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=cx25840, addr=44]
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: wm8775 0-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: ivtv0: i2c attach to card #0 ok [client=wm8775, addr=1b]
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 26582, rev F0B2, serial# 9655118
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: has no radio, has no IR remote
Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 150, card #0
Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Is the entry "tuner type not set" significant? Perhaps this should be posted to the ivtv group as well.


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John


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 1:00 pm 
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castle wrote:
Sep 16 11:02:53 hometv kernel: ivtv: version 0.4.4 (tagged release) loading
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Sep 16 11:02:56 hometv kernel: tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)
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Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set
Sep 16 11:02:57 hometv kernel: tuner 0-0061: tuner type not set

OK, you have not upgraded to 0.4.6 as indicated in the the troubleshooting pages, You have the problematic "TCL M2523_5N_E" model tuner chip as indicated in the troubleshooting pages, and you're getting the "tuner type not set" message as indicated in the troubleshooting pages. This should indicate to you that, as it says, "PVR tuner type is unrecognized by the drivers" and that you should "see the CompileIvtv pages for instruction on upgrading your driver." and possibly "find a tuner type which is "close enough" and force that setting in the appropriate config file."

castle wrote:
Perhaps this should be posted to the ivtv group as well.

No, they already know about it and fixed this in 0.4.6. The problem persists with 0.7.0 because the tveeprom module is now part of the v4l mainline and the patch won't show up until the next kernel release.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:06 pm 
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I've got the same issue but have model 1045. I'm so new to Linux that my heads spinning. Is there a work around until the next release? I've read about the "options ivtv tuner=50" change. Like I said, Linux is new for me and I would try this but so far I don't know how to make this change. Anyone willing to give me the simple steps to edit this line in the modprobe.conf file or is there another work around to get my tuner seeing clearly?


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 12:21 pm 
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Start here: http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=LinuxTips from there you want to go to the http://www.knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page=CheckingLogFiles page.

It would help if you tell us which version you're using and what the log files say about it. Once you've got a root command line session the directions generally include cut and paste level examples to make life easier.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 17, 2006 2:24 pm 
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I appreciate the quick response. Here's my intv log. I'm running R5D1. I bolded the "tuner type not set" which makes me believe I'm in a similar predicament as earlier poster.

Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv: version 0.7.0 (tagged release) loading
Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.17-chw-8 SMP preempt mod_unload 586 gcc-3.4
Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150 card (cx23416 based)
Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:02.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Sep 17 10:15:59 mythtv kernel: cx25840 1-0044: cx25841-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Sep 17 10:16:03 mythtv kernel: cx25840 1-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes)
Sep 17 10:16:03 mythtv kernel: wm8775 1-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Sep 17 10:16:03 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: Hauppauge model 26132, rev G1B2, serial# 9693220
Sep 17 10:16:03 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)
Sep 17 10:16:03 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
Sep 17 10:16:03 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: audio processor is CX25841 (idx 35)
Sep 17 10:16:03 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: decoder processor is CX25841 (idx 28)
Sep 17 10:16:03 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: has no radio, has IR remote
Sep 17 10:16:04 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
Sep 17 10:16:04 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
Sep 17 10:16:04 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
Sep 17 10:16:04 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
Sep 17 10:16:04 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
Sep 17 10:16:04 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
Sep 17 10:16:04 mythtv kernel: tuner 1-0061: tuner type not set
Sep 17 10:16:04 mythtv kernel: tuner 1-0061: tuner type not set
Sep 17 10:16:04 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150, card #0
Sep 17 10:16:04 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================
Sep 17 10:16:26 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
Sep 17 10:16:26 mythtv kernel: ivtv: version 0.7.0 (tagged release) loading
Sep 17 10:16:26 mythtv kernel: ivtv: Linux version: 2.6.17-chw-8 SMP preempt mod_unload 586 gcc-3.4
Sep 17 10:16:26 mythtv kernel: ivtv: In case of problems please include the debug info between
Sep 17 10:16:26 mythtv kernel: ivtv: the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
Sep 17 10:16:26 mythtv kernel: ivtv: any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
Sep 17 10:16:26 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150 card (cx23416 based)
Sep 17 10:16:26 mythtv kernel: ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:02.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
Sep 17 10:16:26 mythtv kernel: tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Sep 17 10:16:26 mythtv kernel: cx25840 1-0044: cx25841-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Sep 17 10:16:30 mythtv kernel: cx25840 1-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes)
Sep 17 10:16:30 mythtv kernel: wm8775 1-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
Sep 17 10:16:30 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: Hauppauge model 26132, rev G1B2, serial# 9693220
Sep 17 10:16:30 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)
Sep 17 10:16:30 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
Sep 17 10:16:30 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: audio processor is CX25841 (idx 35)
Sep 17 10:16:30 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: decoder processor is CX25841 (idx 28)
Sep 17 10:16:30 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: has no radio, has IR remote
Sep 17 10:16:31 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
Sep 17 10:16:31 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
Sep 17 10:16:31 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder MPEG stream: 128 x 32768 buffers (4096KB total)
Sep 17 10:16:31 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder YUV stream: 194 x 10800 buffers (2048KB total)
Sep 17 10:16:31 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder VBI stream: 120 x 17472 buffers (2048KB total)
Sep 17 10:16:31 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Allocate DMA encoder PCM audio stream: 455 x 4608 buffers (2048KB total)
Sep 17 10:16:31 mythtv kernel: tuner 1-0061: tuner type not set
Sep 17 10:16:31 mythtv kernel: tuner 1-0061: tuner type not set
Sep 17 10:16:31 mythtv kernel: ivtv0: Initialized Hauppauge WinTV PVR-150, card #0
Sep 17 10:16:31 mythtv kernel: ivtv: ==================== END INIT IVTV ====================


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Sep 17 10:16:03 mythtv kernel: tveeprom 1-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 4)

Good work, and that bit I quoted right there is the confirmation. As root do this:
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echo "options ivtv tuner=50" >> /etc/modprobe.conf

And then reboot. Please pay careful attention to all the punctuation in that code snippet, make sure that you've got it exactly. Some windows browsers like to play substitution games with quotation marks. Those are honest ASCII double quotes from down near the enter key.


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It worked like a charm. I can't say thanks enough.


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Just point the next poor newbie in the right direction (the troubleshooting pages and a diagnostic approach) when they come along. Since this type of question comes up at least once a day you won't have long to wait. ;-)


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