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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:02 pm 
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fra wrote:
2) It's an onboard card. The motherboard is BIOSTAR TForce TF7025-M2. I don't quite know how to answer your question in this case! I can search more, if this doesn't help. Please let me know!

Just send me the output of the commands I listed in #2 above.

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3) Going to nVidia's Driver Download site, choosing Display Drivers, then GeForce 7 Series, then Linux x86, I end up with this page: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_disp ... 14.11.html which has a link to the driver. It is this driver that I need, isn't it? [newegg reviewers of the mobo said the latest driver was needed for the video card to play nice with linux..]

Unless they mention the version number, it's unclear what "latest" means. If you install that driver and it works, then it may just mean that we need to update the script to handle nVidia's new versioning scheme. (There are some assumptions made about the versions, e.g. that they look like 1.0-WXYZ, and 100.14.11 is quite different.)
fra wrote:
I didn't get to that point yet, but this is an anticipated problem. Any words on how to solve this one too (while we're talking about necessary updates to drivers), would be great.

I would suggest a google search to see if someone has posted the exact commands for you to run. Failing that, look for instructions provided by Realtek either on their site or in the driver source package.

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Human wrote:
Just send me the output of the commands I listed in #2 above.


Will do that later this evening (I'm at work now, and I can only start working on the box after my son goes to sleep, which is at 9pm mountain time!!).

Human wrote:
Unless they mention the version number, it's unclear what "latest" means. If you install that driver and it works, then it may just mean that we need to update the script to handle nVidia's new versioning scheme. (There are some assumptions made about the versions, e.g. that they look like 1.0-WXYZ, and 100.14.11 is quite different.)


The reviewers on new egg mention the 100 series drivers and the .11 drivers. I believe they're talking about the same thing: the 100.14.11.

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I would suggest a google search to see if someone has posted the exact commands for you to run. Failing that, look for instructions provided by Realtek either on their site or in the driver source package.


Will do. I do need to sort the LAN out for setting up SD, right? Hopefully, it'll just work when I get to that point. Otherwise, I'll look into how to update it.


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Just to clear the air a little on the NVidia driver version...

From NVIDIA's website for the 100.14.11 driver version:

Quote:
# Added support for new GPUs:

* GeForce 7050 PV / NVIDIA nForce 630a
* GeForce 7025 / NVIDIA nForce 630a


So, you will need driver version 100.14.11 to get that onboard video working. I do not believe this driver is inculded with KnoppMyth R5F27.

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Human wrote:
Just send me the output of the commands I listed in #2 above.


I'll email them to you right after I post this!

Human wrote:
Unless they mention the version number, it's unclear what "latest" means. If you install that driver and it works, then it may just mean that we need to update the script to handle nVidia's new versioning scheme. (There are some assumptions made about the versions, e.g. that they look like 1.0-WXYZ, and 100.14.11 is quite different.)


As was pointed out, it is indeed 100.14.11.

Human wrote:
I would suggest a google search to see if someone has posted the exact commands for you to run. Failing that, look for instructions provided by Realtek either on their site or in the driver source package.


Good news on this front! The LAN works fine! That's how I got the files you asked for :) I simply scped them to my work account and will send them from there!

In fact, since LAN works, all I need to figure out now is how to update the nVidia driver. I tried following the instructions on the wiki but when I rename startx and then reboot, it still flashes and gives that respawning error. Is it still trying to launch X? Why?? Or is the problem something else? What? Or did I misunderstand the point at which I'm supposed to follow the wiki's instructions? [I installed KM, went through the config, then rebooted as it asks but kept the cd inside. It rebooted from the CD again, and I quit the config and got the console. Followed the wiki's instructions up to the reboot. But still got the same problem.]


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I tried this
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cd /root
wget  http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
mv /usr/bin/startx .
wget ftp://knoppmyth.net/R5/linux-source-2.6.18-chw-13_2.6.18-chw-13-10.00.Custom_all.deb
dpkg -i linux-source-2.6.18-chw-13_2.6.18-chw-13-10.00.Custom_all.deb
sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run

and it errors out. The errors according to the log include
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include/linux/i2c.h:32:26: error: linux/i2c-id.h: No such file or directory

which is odd since it's at /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-chw-13/include/linux/i2c-id.h

The build process must not know how to find it, though.

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Human wrote:
The build process must not know how to find it, though.


So what should I do to update the driver??


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 7:07 pm 
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I had a similar problem with the 7050 board. My fix was to disable glx in the xorg.conf after installing the latest nvidia drivers. That fixed the problem on a R5E50 install.

hope this helps


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Human wrote:
which is odd since it's at /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-chw-13/include/linux/i2c-id.h

The build process must not know how to find it, though.


The file is actually NOT there. It's a link to a non-existing file, supposedly located at

/root/v41-dvb-1387dc197077/linux/include/i2c-id.h

any idea on how to fix that?


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I did resolve the nVidia driver issue:

I ran the installation CD of R5F27. Followed the instructions (as before) till it reached the INIT error. Then I toggled to a console.

I copied the missing file:
Code:
cd /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.18-chw-13/include/linux/
wget http://lm-sensors.org/svn/i2c/trunk/kernel/i2c-id.h


Then, I followed the instructions in the wiki:
http://knoppmythwiki.org/index.php?page ... diaDrivers
(including the short-cut and the speed-up tweak).

After the second reboot (with startx restored), X started fine and I got back into the setup.

I went all the way to fetching the listings (from SD), but it wouldn't fetch them! [any fixes????]

I hooked up my antenna and asked for MythTV to scan for channels. It found them fine!

I have two problems: 1. sound is not there!! and 2. I believe if I scan with my analog comcast cable hooked up, it'll find whatever my TV tuner finds. But the problem is that the HD channels it finds are on some local frequencies that are not on SD's listings! e.g. 1.0 is Fox-HD and 66.2 is CBS-HD. But these two are subjects for new threads [that may have been already answered.. I'll look next]

But related to the topic of this thread: I did all this install with my Dell monitor hooked up, since I'm worried I'll damage the TV if anything goes wrong. But I'm guessing that when stuff was getting installed, the display gets detected at various times, right? So when I now hook up my TV, isn't this going to mess everything up?

If not, then good. I'll just hook things up to the TV and get going.

But if yes, then what should I do instead??

I'm almost there!!! Woohoo!!! Thanks SO MUCH for all the help!


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I have the 7050, so I have to install the new drivers, too.

However, my LAN connection doesn't seem to be working either. So I can't get to the point where I can download the new drivers.


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tjimenez87 wrote:
I have the 7050, so I have to install the new drivers, too.

However, my LAN connection doesn't seem to be working either. So I can't get to the point where I can download the new drivers.


had the same issue. the card was recognized though! i just ran the command dhclient and it connected. have you tried that?


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dhclient did the trick.

I greatly appreciate the tip, I've been working on trying to figure out if the card wasn't detected for hours.


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also, when downloading that missing i2c-id.h file, it is linked to a non-existing file. so i had to delete it first, and then download the file!!!

why is this happening?

also, this may be the reason why i got no sound. i'm not sure the file i found through google is the latest one!!!!! anybody knows what i should do to put that file back in the system "the right way"???? or is it NOT related to the lack of audio? [it IS related to ALSA...]


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Oh, and just to clarify for others who are trying to get the i2c-id.h file, you should issue a

Code:
rm i2c-id.h


command right before the wget command.

Thanks for the help, fra.


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i got a good idea! i think!

i rebooted R5F1 from the CD.
i looked for the i2c-id.h file. there it is not linked to anything!
internet connects fine at this point :) so i sent it to my computer!!!!
diffed the two and they are QUITE different!!!!!!

I'll tell you in a bit if sound works with this one! Crossing my fingers.


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